Hello there ! "Maybe it's only me. But my data is not a guinea pig."
You are not alone Christian, my data is important for me. Rodrigo L L Jorge Em seg., 26 de dez. de 2022 às 08:55, 'Christian Reiss' via bareos-users < bareos-users@googlegroups.com> escreveu: > Merry Christmas everyone! > > Even with super bad news. There it is, in a sub-sentence: > > >> On 12/22/22 04:26, Frank Kohler wrote: > >> Note we change release policy for community to rolling release [3]. > >> [3] https://www.bareos.com/bareos-release-policy/ > > This is super bad. Let me explain why. > > I am -as a private, non-commercial user- using B* for my backup purposes > with 20+ years of B* knowledge under my belt. In the early 2000s with > Bacula. A some point, Bacula did not really accept any more ideas; well > they did, but they only put those into the commercial product, letting > the open source community die. They would word it in some other way, but > in the end, it was dead in the water. > > A fact that really annoyed you guys from Bareos. So much in fact that > you forked Bacula to Bareos. For a looong time I have been using Bareos > as my last line of defense, did a speech in the Open Source Backup > Conference and am/was a B* evangelist, preaching everyone to use it. > > Now you do a rolling release for private people. Let's face it: B* is > not for the normal user. My mom, uncle or any of my non-tech savy > friends will ever use it. It's not the use case. So when I say I run > Bareos on 50+ vms for my private usage, well, that's normal business here. > > With you new "rolling release" how can I make sure server 13 has the > same version as server 51? How can I blindly type "dnf update" and know > stuff will not break? With a rolling release? I happy stayed 1-2 major > versions behind to have a stable, rock-solid experience. > > CentOS did the same. They mission was to provides a stable, non-changing > copy/clone of RedHat with the expressed purpose to be binary compatible > to the RedHat equivalent. They switched to rolling release and killed > their usability and also (pretty much) died. They did not understand > even up to today why this was bad. > > But you said so yourself on https://www.bareos.com/bareos-release-policy/: > > "not for production" > > A... backup solution that is not for production? Maybe I am old > fashioned, but Backups should be reliable, provable working, re-storable > and idempotent. Also, this is a virtual smack in the face for all us > non-paying, private users. Our data is not worth saving. Or at least not > as important as the paid version. Well, we're not producing anything. Or > so. > > Maybe it's only me. But my data is not a guinea pig. > > I guess at some point when you fork for the right reasons and then build > a company around it, you must shed of the deadweight that once helped > you, supported you, carried you to new datacenters and preached. > > CentOS did this. Zimbra, too. And now Bareos. > > Who is forking next? If you do, please don't start a company on it. > > > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Christian Reiss > > _____________________________________________________________ > Christian Reiss > CTO > > DALASON GmbH > Im Mediapark 5 > 50670 Köln > Germany > > Tel: +49 221 - 177 396 - 20 > christian.re...@dalason.de > > Internet: www.dalason.de www.dcalling.de www.wirecloud.de > Geschäftsführer: Andreas Damek, Chung-U Son > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln > Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Köln HRB 60929 > ____________________________________________________________ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "bareos-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/f1017db9-12c4-493b-170f-26063e1b357e%40dalason.de > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/CAEQmXaMqfDsXCZb5Xi32ejqwMO_vS_vQisZU0fsEbcgQ2aLnYA%40mail.gmail.com.
