As I understand, this is the interesting excerpt from the debug trace.

win10test-fd (50): findlib/find.cc:169-0 Verify=<V> Accurate=<Cmcs> BaseJob=<Jspug5> flags=<724185736> win10test-fd (50): findlib/find.cc:169-0 Verify=<V> Accurate=<Cmcs> BaseJob=<Jspug5> flags=<724185736>
win10test-fd (450): findlib/find.cc:175-0 F C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT
win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:278-0 Enter convert_unix_to_win32_path
win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:322-0 path = \\?\C:\Users\test\NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:328-0 Leave cvt_u_to_win32_path path=\\?\C:\Users\test\NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:234-0 Win32ConvInitCache: Setup of thread specific cache at address 1532b2b76d0
win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:531-0 Enter make_wchar_win32_path
win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:555-0 Leave make_wchar_win32_path=\\?\C:\Users\test\NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:1609-0 sizino=8 ino=0 filename=C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (300): findlib/find_one.cc:911-0 File ----: C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (130): filed/backup.cc:535-0 FT_REG saving: C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (130): filed/backup.cc:646-0 filed: sending C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT to stored win10test-fd (150): lib/crypto_openssl.cc:641-0 crypto_digest_new jcr=1532b228410 win10test-fd (300): filed/backup.cc:1575-0 encode_and_send_attrs fname=C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT
win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:278-0 Enter convert_unix_to_win32_path
win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:322-0 path = \\?\C:\Users\test\NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (500): compat/compat.cc:328-0 Leave cvt_u_to_win32_path path=\\?\C:\Users\test\NTUSER.DAT
win10test-fd (300): filed/backup.cc:1594-0 File C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT
attribs=A A IH/ B A A CAi FAAA A A BlnTaz BlnTaz BlnTaz A A L
attribsEx=CAi HaQkZzohoU HaQvQ8Q7yY HaQvQ8Q7yY A FAAA
win10test-fd (300): filed/backup.cc:1620-0 >stored: attrhdr 1 5 0win10test-fd (200): filed/backup.cc:1772-0 No strip for C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT win10test-fd (300): filed/backup.cc:1715-0 >stored: attr len=130: 1 3 C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT
win10test-fd (150): filed/backup.cc:737-0 type=3 do_read=1
win10test-fd (100): findlib/bfile.cc:710-0 bopen: fname C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT, flags 00100000, mode 0000, rdev 8226
win10test-fd (50): findlib/bfile.cc:565-0 === NO plugin
win10test-fd (100): findlib/bfile.cc:664-0 Read CreateFileW=\\?\C:\Users\test\NTUSER.DAT
win10test-fd (850): lib/message.cc:1216-0 Enter Jmsg type=8
win10test-fd (850): lib/message.cc:613-0 Enter DispatchMessage type=8 msg=win10test-fd JobId 16959:      Cannot open "C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT": ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
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win10test-fd (850): lib/message.cc:820-0 DIRECTOR for following msg: win10test-fd JobId 16959:      Cannot open "C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT": ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
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win10test-fd (400): findlib/find_one.cc:493-0 FT_REG FI=1 linked=0 file=C:/Users/test/NTUSER.DAT

From what I understand from the description of the make_wchar_win32_path() method in win32/compat/compat.cc - we should leave the function with the filename properly converted to VSS-based one. But apparently we're stuck with local name.

MK

On 11.01.2024 22:03, Spadajspadaj wrote:

The more I dig into it, the more it seems it is bareos after all.

Unfortunately, building Windows bareos-fd is no small feat so I cannot directly debug it but.

I ran a procmon against bareos-fd.exe and it seems that while the FD process does create a VSS snapshot... it doesn't read from it. It reads the files straight from the main device. I did a small test fileset consisting of just my user's registry file. And both procmon's dump as well as bareos-fd own debug trace shows that it's trying to read simply a c:\users\test\ntuser.dat instead of properly going for \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HardDiskVolumeShadowCopyXX\Users\test\ntuser.dat. That would explain why the job even though it's supposed to use VSS, fails on copying open files.

When I created a very small example VS project just creating a VSS snapshot and copying said file out of the VSS snapshot (using the proper shadow copy volume path), it works OK.

MK

On 9.01.2024 15:11, spadaj...@gmail.com wrote:
OK. There is more to this than just bareos.
1. I used the script from this thread and it seems to be working relatively well for backing up (I'm yet to test the restore part ;-)) the disk. I don't know, however how to backup whole mountpoint. If I put the location of my symlink/junction/whatever that is, only the junction point itself gets backed up, not the contents. I can't make bareos descend into the mounted VSS shadow copy. I have to explicitly list directories (like c:/vssmount/c/users) to back them up. 2. I spent whole evening yesterday trying to get vss to work, regardless of bareos. I tried creating snapshots with " shadowcopy call create Volume=C:\" and then symlinking them by hand and each time I did them I was also getting access denied due to file open. So there must be something else that the script provided in this thread does and neither bareos nor manual wmic call do.
(My system here is Win10)

MK
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:33:36 PM UTC+2 jo.go...@hosted-power.com wrote:

    We have simuilar issues, it seems for some servers a lot is
    skipped. We would really like to get to the root cause

    On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 at 04:19:35 UTC+1 Matt Bader wrote:

        Hi Timo and Andreas,

        I'd be interested to know how to handle this issue as well -
        it's happening to a number of my FDs too. Did you figure out
        how to get VSS to work on all files?

        Thanks and regards,

        Matt

        On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 6:21:59 PM UTC+1
        zehnb...@gmail.com wrote:

            Hey Andreas,

            Windows Server Backup is working.

            Those 3 files are just files to demonstrate that somehow
            the bareos-vss is not working. Like i already mentioned,
            as a workaround i can create a vss with a
            powershell-script and ClientRunBeforeJob, then backup and
            remove the vss with ClientRunAfterJob again. Also using
            restic, for example, is working like a charm.

            Best,
            Timo

            Andreas Rogge schrieb am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2022 um
            20:30:54 UTC+1:

                Am 07.02.22 um 08:20 schrieb Vorname Nachname:
                > Any suggestions?

                Check if the integrated Windows Server Backup works
                or not.
                Are you backing up only these three files, or are the
                other files where
                the backup works?

                Best Regards,
                Andreas

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