a) I don't know how memory efficient MeV is but isn't memory always an issue when clustering?
b) But imagine a future where MeV actually stores data back to BASE! I think this may become doable as a part of the web services development in BASE 2.5. I would like to go even further where users can perform a MeV clustering on the server side, and when the job finishes be able to look at the results using MeV. It should be possible to do by hacking the MeV code. Just making things clear, we are not working on this but I just wanted to plant an idea for BASE/MeV development. Cheers, Jari Bob MacCallum wrote: > I knew someone was going to ask that... > > Because > > a) I tried it and get out-of-memory errors on a 1GB Mac clustering a > relatively modest experiment (12 hybs x 20k spots). We will have users in > developing nations with much less computing power than that. > > b) Anything done in MeV is not stored for eternity in the BASE analysis tree > for future reference. > > c) We will need/write something similar to clust_*.phtml supplied with BASE1, > and the PNGs from this plugin will work fine for us. > > cheers, > Bob. > > Jari Häkkinen writes: > > Why not use the clustering in the MeV plugin shipped with BASE? > > > > > > Jari > > > > > > Johan Enell wrote: > > > Hj Bob, > > > > > > The clustering from Base1 will not work in Base2. Or more precisely, > > > you will be able to run the plugin but you wont be able to se the > > > result. The visualization page in Base1 was a specific php page for > > > that plugin and we didn't want a solution like that in Base2. > > > > > > > > > When you configure Base1 plugins you should always start of from a > > > base1 plugin configuration file. From the plugin page in Base1 you > > > will find an export link with each plugin. Use that file to configure > > > the Base1PluginExecuter. > > > > > > /Johan > > > > > > > > > 11 sep 2007 kl. 16.58 skrev Bob MacCallum: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I was trying to find out if base1's hierarchical clustering would > > >> run under > > >> base2 - and got to the point where I need to provide parameter > > >> settings as > > >> XML. I could spend an hour figuring this out by hand (e.g. from > > >> the examples > > >> on the BASE2 demo server) but I'm convinced there's an easier way. > > >> I've > > >> searched the plugin site for documentation. Could someone help > > >> please? > > >> > > >> Since the hierarchical clustering isn't on the BASE2 demo server, > > >> does that > > >> mean it doesn't work? > > >> > > >> We know that there won't be any display tools available in BASE2 > > >> for this, but > > >> we can work with the PNGs and assorted text files. > > >> > > >> many thanks, > > >> Bob. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ The BASE general discussion mailing list basedb-users@lists.sourceforge.net unsubscribe: send a mail with subject "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
