On Saturday 20 March 2010 02:48:23 pm klebezet...@gmx.net wrote: > Hiya! > > I'm interested in Basket Note Pads development. So I've read visited the > site, read some mails, checked out the source, run sloccount just to get > an overview. > > I think everybody needs some kind of self organization. Basket is one of > the best things I found for this. You can create TODOs, manage your > projects, store some information you always need but always forget > etc...you can see it as an abstraction of a file system since you can > attach links to files/folders/programs/websites etc... > > I used Basket in KDE3 a lot, but then with KDE4 the kde3 version of basket > just didn't "feel" right. So I was without basket, a really > loo..ooo...oong time (and because of this, I wasn't really good > organised). > > At work I was confronted with an windows environment and I felt quite > helpless - heck, what are windows user using? After trying some programs, > I finally came across MS OneNote - which has some similarities with basket > (or Basket has similarities with OneNote). Well, OneNote ist really good, > and it would be fantastic to have an free alternative that is, in some > points, even better, hm? :) > > So that's why I'm here: > - I want to use the KDE4 Version of Basket! (with all the features I > used) - I also want to use Basket on Windows! > > As I said, I've tried to get an overview of the current state. Here are my > observations. Please comment/correct me! (And it would be awesome to have > all these information on some site, even better: a wiki! See below). > > Observations: > > > -1) Kelvie Wong <kel...@ieee.org> is the current maintainer. >
Along with a few other devs, this is correct. > 0) --- Basket 2.0 Beta seems to be on the way! ---------------------- > Tracking bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=release-basket-1.80 > Correct. Beta should be out around Monday. > > 1) --- Website ------------------------------------------------------ > The Website is totally out of date, but Doruk Fisek <dfi...@fisek.com.tr> > seems to work on this: http://zzz.fisek.com.tr/files/basket-website/ > the website is on git as well. > Is this roadmap/vision http://basket.kde.org/version2.php still the goal? > (in the longer term) > Perhaps. I, personally, haven't looked at that page in awhile. The current goal is just to get a KDE4 ported release out and see what momentum can be generated out of it. > Maybe a wiki would make more sense, so every developer can contribute to > the site? See also below. > The website is git and, IMO (but i do it probably a bit too often), setting up an internal webserver to use for testing is pretty easy. I doubt with the current developer base that we would get much more usage out of a Wiki, but I have no objections. > > 2) --- Repository --------------------------------------------------- > Basket uses git. Does the following URLs point to the same repository? (how > to find out?) > > git://github.com/kelvie/basket.git (from current outdated site) > git://gitorious.org/basket/basket.git (from Doruks updated site) > > Github is out of date. Gitorious is the canonical repository now. > 3) --- Source ------------------------------------------------------- > > sloccount output: > """ > Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 28,642 > Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 6.77 (81.30) > (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05)) > Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 915,156 > (average salary = $56,286/year, overhead = 2.40). > """ > > output of 'grep TODO -R . | wc -l': 157 > output of 'grep FIXME -R . | wc -l': 60 > > In CMakeLists.txt: the qt3 support library is still needed - what's the > state of the porting process? > It's ported, the use of the qt3 support library doesn't mean that it isn't ported. Removing Qt3 support before 2.0 is a nice to have. > What are further "internal" goals? > My personal goals (some being shared by others) are code cleanups, more automated unit tests, and integration with the pillars of KDE (Nepomuk, Akonadi, etc.) > > 4) --- Bugtracker --------------------------------------------------- > https://www.lynoure.net/basket/mantis/my_view_page.php > > Only little activity (5 issues in this year). Seems to be full of spam. Any > plans concerning this? > That's not the canonical bug tracker anymore. Basket has switched (back) to bugs.kde.org > > 5) --- Reviewboard? ------------------------------------------------- > Not found. > your point? We have git. Use a feature branch and create a merge request. > > 6) --- Wiki --------------------------------------------------------- > Not found. But wait, there existed http://basket.openusability.org/ (dead > link now). You can access (very slow!) some sites of it through > archive.org. > > So what happened with this? As I remember, there were some really cool > ideas described. > basket.openusability.org was a usability study done by openusability on Basket. > Any plans to setup a wiki again (maybe as replacement for the site, so > every developer can easily change/update stuff)? not really. > The Mailing-List is the > only communication platform so far, right? > yes > Maybe we could create a page for basket at http://techbase.kde.org/Projects > (I would ask and create one...). I could also install a wiki on my > personal webspace... > *shrug* what would we put there? > > 8) --- Basket on Windows -------------------------------------------- > There is some activity from David <da...@nixbioinf.org>. > > > 9) --- Basket at other sites ---------------------------------------- > KDE-APPS.ORG: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10020 > Is this in control? > probably not. > FRESHMEAT.NET: http://freshmeat.net/projects/basket > This is not in the current maintainers/developers control. Matt Rogers > <ma...@kde.org> asked for the account, no reply so far. > > Any other sites? > none. > > 10) --- Integration into the KDE infrastructure? --------------------- > Should Basket be part of the official kde distribution? no > Using kde's bugtracker, wiki, review board, ...?! > we already are. > > 11) --- User documentation ------------------------------------------- > Menu -> Baket Note Pads Handbook > > There is just a skeleton. > > > > Best regards, > klebezettel :) > You are welcome to help. However, code speaks louder than words. If you're interested, you'll jump right in, and we'll start seeing merge requests. :) -- Matt
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