At 16:40 -0700 9/23/06, Bob Williams wrote:
>On Sep 23, 2006, at 8:41, James Marks wrote:
A whole lot about how he works with ftp

Personally:

I am reluctant to edit a file on a server without checking out the results of 
my editing before committing them.

So.. . . I download a file to be edited, do the edits, test as possible, and 
upload to commit the changes. The backup file remains on my chosen local 
directory for later use.

Until recently I kept a bunch of curl commands in a bbedit worksheet which 
would 1) download a distal file for editing and use the bbedit tool to edit the 
result and 2) upload the edited document to the appropriate destination. I used 
curl's -n option to handle passwords kept in $HOME/.netrc..

I made extensive use of BBEdit's MARK  menu to keep track of the special places 
in my main worksheet so that I could find the appropriate commands and execute 
them. In a way it was a follow on to the what I once did with Apple's MPW 
before OS neXt.

I have recently changed the procedure to use the scp command provided by the 
secure shell and the ssh ability to login to a server securely without 
bothering with passwords and other nasty stuff like keychains. I have learned 
how to create a certificate and plan my $HOME/.ssh/ directory.  My BBEdit 
worksheet includes:

a stored scp to recover the current file:
bbedit tool command to edit the file
. . . . Time between answering emails  to test as appropriate
Another stored scp to upload the edited file
All commands executed be selecting and ENTERing from the keyboard.

Backup is perfect. The local file always matches the distal file. The only 
problem I have is that MARKing the various scp down- and uploads with a name is 
not subject to alphabetical sorting in the MARK menu so I have to be careful 
when I make my marks.

Yes. I did the same thing with Interarchy, or  was it Anarchie,  on OS Classic. 
I still do and this OS 9.1 machine remains my preferred GUI. When Interarchy 
decided to require Apple's keychain I defaulted to version 5.0,1 which still 
allowed me to include username and password in my bookmarks.

I was recently frustrated by an inability to send, via ftp, an APPL file to a 
low-end-mac user. Good old Interarchy 5.1 handled it nicely by creating a *.bin 
MacBinary file on the fly, but. . . I had to run it on this Mac 8500 running OS 
9.1.

scp is a better overall solution. I look forward to opening up my firewall and  
using VNC.
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