At 12:24 PM -0700 9/22/06, Bob Williams sent email regarding Re: 8.5 and ftp:
On Sep 22, 2006, at 7:15, Warren Michelsen wrote:
I very often edit files right on my server and it's nice that
opening a file on my server is (or rather was) almost transparent
to the user -- almost like opening the file locally. This is what
made the ftp feature so nice.
What's so different about having an Interarchy (or whatever) window
always open and a BBEdit FTP browser always open?
Uh, in the latter case, I can do it without leaving BBEdit.
The only difference I can see is that with an FTP program, you'll
have a bigger set of commands from which to choose. .... And with
Interarchy, at least, you lose nothing in the way of scriptability,
either.
I tried Interarchy 4.1 some years ago and I just didn't 'get' its
paradigm. I lost some files when 'ftpDisk' went berserk and had to
restore from a backup. Like anything else, I'm sure it's easy when
you know how but I found Interarchy's paradigm confusing. Having the
files in one place when using ftp and in another when not? I didn't
get it. I wanted to use it in my workflow, not change my workflow to
accommodate it.
I don't consider opening and saving files to be 'ancillary'.
I was referring to FTP functionality, not the opening of local files.
If you make a distinction between opening of local file and opening
of other files, then yeah, ftp is ancillary. But only because you're
thinking of it as 'ftp' instead of 'opening and saving files'.
That said, though, BBEdit's core functionality is editing and
working with text; if you're strict about this, then opening local
files is indeed ancillary in the sense that it's simply a necessary
support feature for the core functionality (can't edit text if you
can't open a text file).
In this light, FTP is most certainly ancillary
Yes, and you can use BBEdit without opening files on network shares
or, indeed, even locally. But I still consider the ability to open
files (wherever they may reside) central to BBEdit's core purpose.
And I don't think that switching to another application to aid in
the opening of files is particularly handy. ...
Those are just two of the small differences. What about being able
to easily see several different folders on a server at once?
Multiple BBEdit ftp browsers.
Or being able to move files around on the server? Or what about FTP
servers not supported by BBEdit (their presentation of files
varies)? What about protocols other than (S)FTP, even closely
related ones like FTPS?
Those are jobs for a ftp program. If you want bells and whistles,
sure, go with a full-fledged ftp program. If one only needs to open
files from a ftp server, edit them and save 'em back to the server,
BBEdit does pretty well.
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