I'd look at getting a group of neighbors together in a wireless co-op, and
getting a real T1 (expect to pay $1200/mo) or a fraction of a real T1
(expect to pay $600/mo) Then split the costs. Its amazingly easy to get 20
or thirty people together. A friend of mine is doing it in Lincoln. He was
written up in the Globe a few months back.

One thing he has noticed regarding wireless is that wireless goes further
below the branch line. So, if you can't get over the trees, keep the
antennas kind of close to the ground.

T1's for $600/mo are really DSL lines.  Most DSLAMs can have T1 physical
ports in place of DSL ports. The service on the provider side of the DSLAM
is the same as regular DSL. It costs a CLEC $99/mo for the T1 local loop
to the DSLAM, vs $18/mo for the copper pairs.  So you should be paying the
49/mo + (99-18) for these "T1's".

Most of these DSLAMs are owned now by Verizon or by Covad. If we wanted to
sell DSL, we could get an ATM DS3 from Verizon, and could sell DSL
anywhere in Mass.  The problem is congestion management on the ATM link:
Verizon won't configure it.  So if the ATM network is congested, packets
will just be dropped, rather than FECN and BECN messages, which could be
used to slow the sender.  So, no matter who you by DSL (or "T1 DSL") from,
it will always have a degree of "suckiness" to it.

By contrast, our T1's go to multiple uplinks (locally, but not in same
building), which improves redundancy and availability in the case of train
derailment, and lower latency, which really helps the "feel" of the
network, and of course helps those voip applications.

Oops. Perhaps too salesy...

                --Dean

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I've been lurking for years and now have a question.
>
> For small systems such as the one I am working on, hardware, software and
> administration are within my reach.  Connectivity is not.  I'm too far from
> the central TELCO switch to get DSL.  I don't have enough volume yet to rent
> an office with T1 connectivity and I'm displeased with the services I can
> afford from hosting companies.  Acceptable use policies for broadband forbid
> web hosting from one's home.
>
> I have T1 quotes in the range of $600 per month.  That's over $7000 per year
> for connectivity.  I don't really need 1.52 MB/sec.  I could do with a
> quarter of that, but I can't find someone who will give me T1/4 for $150 per
> month.
>
> Am I missing any options?  How can I get web connectivity for a single Linux
> box at a rate of $150/month or less?  If I can get connectivty to my home,
> my data transfer needs will probably be only 1 GB/month to access portion of
> a 10 GB depository.
>
> If I had a friend with DSL, I'd beg for the privilege of putting a Linux box
> at his/her house.  Unfortunately, everyone I know has broadband.
>
> david at cogley.com
>
>
>
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