Couldn't help adding: If you consider M$ to be the enemy,do u think Apple to be friend?
Did you notice they have an OS to compete in the market. Do u think they will love to see Linux rise and let Mac OS die. Aren't hey locking user iTunes that runs brilliant with MAC, sucks in Windows and not even runs in Linux. Why are the not opening up their source code? Why is iPhone development platform is not available to world. Aren't they sleeping with enemy with promoting MS Office version of Mac. Did you ever notice that they have smooth interoperability with Windows where as all the MS protocols are propitiatory? So they have patent pact with M$. Did you hear about the rumor about M$ owning a big share in Apple (yes , apple needed the money when they were going down) ;) So, M$ we hate, Apple is not coming out to be friend, Sun is revamping its own OS solaris for server and desktop market, IBM is a desperate hardware seller who will sell anything that can be sold be it their own OS, Linux or windows. Google with all its money, goodwill and good works hasn't any move to pour money into a distro (like Mark did for ubuntu) and make a hell of a Linux OS out of it. Novell has made SuSE (Enterprise + Desktop), which I just love, but are in patent pact with MS. And at the same time they are one of the official supporter of KDE4 (which I think will be the "One desktop to rule them all"). RedHat is just playing it to spice up the bargain. M$ will slay them eventually. Then who is our enemy and who is our friend? Its all business man. Its like politics. You never just *hate*. You love or hate based on the situation. :P And, god forbid, what happens to they day, when MS moves to support growth of Linux. U say I am crazy? Its already happening. They are making interoperability better (whatever its cost it to OSS). which will lead to better Linux adoption. .NET platform porting (Mono project) is not resisted by MS for any type of patent violation. Don't you see, if we make an OS on top of which they can sell their product and service, they will be free from the cost of developing an OS that is inferior than what is available freely in the market? So if you wanted Linux to win over Windows, it already happened. M$ knows it can't kill it. Linux desktop is on the rise, so better use it rather than kill it. And since Linux own the server room - lets get the foot into that room by playing interoperability nicely -- Soyuz PS: Hope it makes a nice read. --- In [email protected], "Soyuz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, we do always enjoy all the news and articles that tells how "M$ > sucks". But this topic always makes me throw some comments out there. > > Firstly, we know M$ is evil for its business strategy. It just kills > its competition in various manner. No matter how much we hate it, > BillG is doing it finest for its share holder. Even though with my > zero level of business knowledge, i know there are many type of > business strategy and what M$ doing in one of the traditional one - > establish monopoly. Put ypurself in the shoes of M$ investor who has > got few million $ in M$ share and think how will you want Bill to run > the company. I am sure I will want to marry Bill for the heck of a job > he has done. > > Now stating that, when it comes to Linux, we are all M$ haters. why? > Just because Linux hasn't taken over the ground dominated by Windows? > In my view, it is not necessary to have such a one to one > relationship. First of all, Linux is taking over by its own merit. > But in that path theres two issues - M$ business strategy to hinder > Linux growth in OS market + Linux still *sucks* in many ways as an > desktop OS. Anyway I i don't want to start a flameware on it. But my > point being - Linux donesn't need to rise based on the hatred to M$. > M$ hating is just now a thing of past. As a Linux community we should > spread the "Linux is great" without the "and M$ sucks" part. > > Now I have got few comments on "M$ dead" thing too. Yes, my > understanding seems to agree but I would like say it as "M$ is dying" > - there growth slowed down for some years now. This is a economic > truth that everything growth will eventually face a decline. If you > are underestimating few things --- > > 1. M$ can always refocus its business in new area instead of their > cash cow MS Office (yes, if you though they are rich by selling > Windows you are dead wrong. They will give it to you for free so that > you keep locked in MS Office). They have realized that they their OS > has nit the peak of its growth and there are competition that are too > rebellious to contain (Linux + OpenOffice). Also with Google and boom > of online services, the IT business has changed. So all they need now > is Innovation to move to a new area and start domination there. > > > 2. To support them on (1) they have > > -- a) Huge pile of $ > -- b) great talent pool > > > (b) is what it matters most, and M$ has it. What do u think talent > poll level of M$. I am sure as a developer you have respect to another > brilliant dev irrespective of the company they work for. > > Fortunately, I work with few Linux legends at my workplace everyday, i > have friends who are M$ devs, I have had the opportunity to talk to > key M$ and Google engineers: they are all the same in one thing - they > love what they do, they keep it at their best, and they get better > every day. > > So with approx 60K talented (mostly I must say :P) engineer how do you > see M$ to go down soon. > > When you are talking about MS being dead which I assume a pretty > generic statement form their share market growth. I want to give you > some pretty disappointing news. > > 1. M$ has stepped up the battle and entered a zone where nobody will > think M$ will dare too. M$ is now providing Windows OS cluster and > field formerly 100% owned by *ux OSes. And they have already made it > within the top 500 super computing site with its Compute Cluster OS. > > http://www.itjungle.com/two/two062707-story01.html > > > (Just a shameless plug - my company (SGI) has provided 10th most > powerfull supercompuetr based on Altix + SuSE Linux) > > http://www.top500.org/lists/2007/06 > > > 2. M$ is on its way (though some time required) to beat Apache with > IIS. A stable growth over past few years. > http://news.netcraft.com/ > > 3. They are moving to service focus than product focus. > > anyway its getting to long. Need to get back to work. > > Just want to conclude saying, > > If you think its a battle between Linux and MS Windows, you will win a > battle that MS already won and leaving the filed to win new ground. > Let Linux win by its own virtue. > > M$ is not yet dead, its ain't over until they say its over. > > But main point being - Linux Love != MS hate. Keep them separate. As I > have seen all the best engineers around me from whom I learn every day > does that. > > -- Soyuz > > > --- In [email protected], Zico <mailzico@> wrote: > > > > 8-D > > > > A really nice and funny article by Paul Graham. Some signs, which > are really > > alerting for M$. > > The line which i liked best from this article... > > > > "Microsoft's biggest weakness is that they still don't realize how > much they > > suck." -- by Paul Graham > > > > http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html > > > > And, one picture for you... > > > > http://www.rako.com/Software/Microsoft_Handgun/Software-Gun2.jpg > > > > Enjoy!!!! > > > > Zico > > > > > > -- > > http://mohibuzzaman.blogspot.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
