There's some around
Who hate the taste of chamomile
Imagine  earthworm casting tea I bet
That would have a delicate sweet flavour
But drinking it would need a new mind set


Just joking Allan

Rex Tyler
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:23 PM
Subject: FSW: earthworm castings for tea


> >  As I understand it, earthworm castings produce a reliable,
well-balanced tea
> >  and also facilitate homeopathic herbal and mineral additions. Isn't
this
> >  compost a good, somewhat easy to replicate material that would make it
> >  easier to test out the  effectiveness of various additions to the mix?
Any
> >  problems surfacing with using earthworm compost tea?
> >
> >  Thanks so much Allan for setting this opportunity up!
>
> I too thank Allan for setting this up.  I enjoy the opportunity.
>
> Do you mind if I get into worm compost debates a bit deeply here?
> What is "worm
> castings", versus "worm compost"?  To be a stickler, castings are ONLY the
> material that is processed by the worms, through their digestive system.
No
> matter how many worms you have in a bin, you CANNOT be assured that
> every bit of
> that material was processed by the worms through their guts.  Only if you
sieve
> the material coming out of a worm bin, such that you have only the
> little poops,
> would you know that you have pure castings.  So, what is sold is really
worm
> compost, not pure castings.
>
> What makes worm castings (I'm focusing on the poops right now, not along
with
> the other stuff that isn't processed) such wonderful stuff?  The earthworm
gut
> is a quite interesting place.
>
> The evidence I have seen is that worms themsleves do not make the enzymes
to
> break down organic matter.  Worms do not contain the DNA to make the
enzymes to
> break down organic matter.  Therefore, what is it that worms are eating?
The
> muscles of the earthworms grind soil particles together in the digestive
> systems, and crush, grind up and otherwise physically break open the
bacteira,
> fungi, protozoa, nematodes and microarthropods in the soil the worm
consumes.
> Do they crush ALL the bodies.  No.  Alot of them?  Yes.  The really
susceptible
> populations of bacteria and fungi appear to be the human pathogens,
probably
> because they are typically large cells with delicate cell walls and
membranes.
> Fungal pathogens appear to be quite susceptible to being destroyed by
passage
> through the earthworm gut.
>
> But that's not the best part of the worm digestive system!  The worm
> absorbs the
> crushed cells of all these organisms, but then in the back end of the
worm, we
> have some really super bacteral and perhaps fungi species that hang out
there,
> and inoculate all that wonderful food stuff, so the castings are chock
full of
> beneficial bacterial and fungal species.
>
> What goes in the front end of a worm is modified and improved in many
ways.
> Clive Edwards at Ohio State is trying to show that there are lots of plant
> growth hormones, or plant growth promoters (PGPs) in worm castings, but he
has
> yet to do a really well-controlled sicentific experiment that demonstrates
that
> worm castings have these material in high concentration.  I have no doubt
that
> they are in worm castings, but, the science must be well-done to show that
worm
> castings and thus the worm compost, contain significantly higher amounts
of
> growth promoters than soil itself.
> If you have a really healthy soil, are the same growth promoters made?  So
why
> fuss with worms?  Ah, but is it easier to get lots of PGPs when high
numbers of
> worms are present?  Probably.  So.....
>
> Well, you can see where this would be of interest to plant people.  Worms
are
> merely ways to control the beneficial populations and get rid of the bad
> populations.
>
> Now, lets move on to the other stuff that isn't processed by the worms,
i.e.,
> does not actually go through the worm gut.  That could still have
pathogens in
> it, right?  Ah, but because the worms move through the material, even
though
> that material is fairly wet, they leave behind them air passageways.
Worms are
> little, itty, bitty mixers, teeny-tiny plows, if you will.  They aerate
the
> material quite well.
>
> What is the minimum amount of aeration needed?  It depedns on how much
high
> nitrogen-containing, simple sugar food resources you have thrown in the
bin.
> The higher the juicy, easy-to-use N and sugars in the bin, the more worms
you
> need to keep up the aeration so the bacteria and fungi don't use up the
oxygen
> in the compost and drive metabolism into the anaerobic range.  Anaerobic
means
> all kinds of plant toxic compounds being made, and the possibility that
human
> bacterial pathogens and plant fungal pathogens are going to grow and
> out-compete
> the beneficial organisms.
>
> How wet can a worm compost be before it starts to go anaerobic?  Depends
on the
> number of worms, and how fast the bacteria and fungi are growing.  I've
seen
> worm bins at 80% moisture that make great worm compost, and some at that
> moisture that make terrible compost.  I've seen worm bins at 30% moisture
that
> make terrible compost.  Not enough moisture and the worms just won't do
their
> job.  Too few worms at high moisture and the "compost" stinks to high
heaven.
>
> So, balance is the key.  A few factors that you have to keep in mind
> - moisture,
> food quality, presence of good bacteria and fungi, worm density.  The more
> worms, the faster the processing, the more food you can add to the bins
and the
> wetter you can keep it.  What causes worms to die off?  Oh boy, there's a
> complex topic.  The wrong kinds of foods added to the bins, not enough
"chunk"
> to the foods so air does get limiting, not enough paper or cardboard,
> too little
> water, etc.  Temperature plays a part only in that there is a top range
and a
> minimum range.  The worms work faster as temperature increases, up to the
point
> they start to die when it gets too hot.
>
> So, please understand that worm compost can be really good, and it
> can be really
> bad.  No panacea here.  You must pay attention to the quality of the
product,
> how it was produced, the way it feels, smells, and insist that the
> producer show
> you the biological data and the chemical data.
>
> If the manure going into the worm bin is high in salt, the compost will be
high
> in salt.  The manure will be high in salt if the animals are being fed
> pelletized foods, so use small amounts of that kind of manure.  You can
use
> normal amounts of manure from animals that are fed grass, grain (be
careful of
> high protein coming through if fed too high grain content however, you
have to
> balance with high paper, cardboard, stalk and stems of plants) .
>
> Can worm compost be as variable as thermal compost?  Yes.  It's just
> less likely
> to be as consistently variable.  Thermal compost varies from batch to
batch
> because hte starting materials going in are quite variable.  If the
starting
> materials are exactly the same, but percentages of the different materials
are
> varied, the results can still be variable.  We have data from a big study
with
> the City of Eugene, OR that we'll be publishing soon.  (there's a relative
term
> for you - what do you mean by soon?  I mean we'll start the publishing
process
> in June or July, after analyzing the data, writing up the paper, and you
could
> expect to see the pub in about 2 years.  That's why I have the e-zine.  I
can
> talk about results before they ae officially published).
>
> But your implied question is relative to thermal compost.  Is worm compost
more
> consistent than thermal.  Yes.  So, given a source of good worm compost,
use
> it.  I tend to mix 10 - 50% thermal compost with 50 to 90% worm compost to
make
> tea, so I increase the diversity of organisms in the tea.
>
> Hope this answers your question!  If not, try again!
>
> Elaine Ingham
>
>

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