There's always a way of course, even if it is of the underground 
variety you mention.  Hackers could be put to good use for creating 
ways to disrupt government spying.  When I was in Vietnam (1971-72) 
there were ingenious individuals broadcasting illegal underground 
radio programs to US military personnel.  The broadcasters were 
military themselves, and since by this time this was not a popular 
war (most of us being draftees) many of us were glad to get a 
different slant on the news than the one from Armed Forces Radio. o 
They had to continually be on the move however, so as to avoid the 
directional listening devices.

>so how do you link with that ISP? Phone lines?  Wpuldnt it be easy work to
>detect data streams over phone line and have the phone co. disconnect you
>for naughty use? Or just dirty the lines again so that data has a hard tome
>getting though clean.
>
>I prefer your way, but if they want to tax, they will. Yes there can be some
>undewrground activity, but how many mainstream folks are going to go through
>that?
>
-Tom

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