HUGH wrote...... Yes point taken. In the US the term Biodynamics is owned by an organisation and thus they can define it. Here in NZ it is a generic word and one of its meaning is 'a agricultural system based on the indications of RS'. Which according to my reading allows for all things mentioned. If we - elsewhere in the world- allow it to be defined by the organisiations then thats all it will be, however RS work is so completely wholistic it deserves more than to be left to 'them'. So yes in the US its a dead word and Gils comment stands, elswhere it is what we the practioners make it and the Associations are just monuments to certain individuals egos and near on irrelevant except to a fanatical few. Im for holding the vision of BD as wholistic and continuing on. When in the US I guess I will have to use Quantum Ag or some such term. hummmmm bummer. Glen
Hugh Lovel wrote: > > >Gil Robertson wrote: > >> While BD is the best Ag System we have to date. It is at this time, not > >> a > >> complete system. We also have to consider Paramagnetics, water > >> restructuring, > >> mineral balance, clay spreading, gypsum spreading, ameliorating salinity > >> etc. > > > >I d like to suggest BD is a complete system and the above are just part > >of it. > > > >Glen > > Dear Glen, et. al., > > I might amend that suggestion. If we stick with the nomenclature of BD or > biodynamic we have to deal with a long entrenched cult mentality that is > close-minded to certain innovations. Despite the work of Lily Kolisko the > BD mentality has largely stuck with and insisted upon an antiquated system > of stirring and spraying that the vast majority of farmers simply are > unable to accomplish. I believe that's the position of the Demeter > organizations worldwide. To be certified BD you have to stir each remedy > separately for an hour and then spray. > > You don't do this. Greg doesn't do this. I don't do this. Each in our own > ways we use homeopathic potencies and at the very least we combine remedies > and eliminate the lengthy stirring process. I'm told here in the states > that isn't acceptable for BD certification. > > And you've seen how the horn manure remedy has been overused, liming has > been discouraged, etc. by BD pedagogues. Horn clay is not accepted in > orthodox circles here in the states. Radionics is not accepted. Dowsing is > given the hex sign by many in the old guard. > > Somehow rotational grazing and compost tea has slipped past all the censors > I'm aware of but I'm not so sure about paramagnetics, water restructuring, > cloudbusting, weather patterning, etc. > > What I'm saying is we can't use the term BD or biodynamic to indicate a > complete system way of thinking because the "owners" of these terms aren't > all-embracing enough to let such a thing happen. We may use these terms as > all-embracing on our own behalf, but somewhere along the line we will run > into flak for it. This gives an appearance to outsiders that, yes, BD is a > somewhat narrow cult, and how many are willing to submit to passing the > litmus tests for BD certification when these tests are to say the very > least arcane? Do you pass the tests in NZ? I don't pass the tests here in > the states, I assure you. Shucks. BD has ended up with some all-embracing > folks involved in it, I think because one has to be pretty all-embracing to > get to BD. But as it stands I think the die-hard BD organizations will > never be all-embracing. > > Best wishes, > Hugh -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books & Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
