Hi Frank: Yes war sucks bigtime. And there are other choices for the good of all. Think it has to do with cooperation. Blessings, Barbara Aurora Farm is the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Teuton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: Demeter Non-Profit - Not! >Hi Jane, > >Sorry but all I have for you is a chiding admonishment, eh? Please think of >it kindly.... > >When reading these 'sturm und drang' posts please read carefully, to avoid >misunderstandings. You see, Greg points out that the offices are in New >York further down in his post: > >" When I inquired >>whether or not they enjoyed tax exempt status in the State of New >>York where their offices are located, again I was told that they do >>not have tax exempt non-profit status. And, when I checked with the >>IRS, they told me that Demeter does not have federal tax exempt >>non-profit status either. That would be 401(c)(3) designation." > >I expect your less than careful reading probably comes from some place where >you feel the attacks are overly one sided and that there is good in these >people that is being denied by their attackers. Something in that old >Catholic tradition of 'hating the sin, loving the sinners' seems to be >missing, eh? > >It seems to me that the BD community in the US is getting caught up in an >organizational dynamic similar to the struggles over defining organic for >the National Organic Program and defining composting, which is being >increasingly narrowly defined as thermophilic composting, (as in the NOP >rules.) > >Maybe there is some deep astrological reason for this, who knows? > >But the businesses of Self-Other conflict on the one hand, and cooperation, >on the other, can certainly entail crimination and recrimination, before >they move to a more constructive level. > >Rather than stay within the little world of BD I would like to make you >aware of the slightly large world of organics and composting. In both of >these worlds process standards, ie how something has to be done, rather than >performance standards, ie what are we trying to do, have become or are >becoming the rule, not only of a core group of practitioners but as a matter >of law (in the case of the NOP, Federal law.) > >I think the people on this list are much more in tune with the concept of >multiple methods of accomplishing a goal rather than one orthodoxy. One >pitfall to avoid is excessive indulgence in demonizing the Other. > >But it is hard to refrain from doing battle when the other side attacks you. >I was recently thrown off the US Composting Council list for coming to the >defense of vermicomposting, particularly vermicomposting in schools, which >Jim McNelly has made a hobby of attacking in a 'Dennis Avery' sort of way >over the last few years. I basically think he has an ax to grind against >Mary Appelhof and fearmongering against her life's work is how he does it, >for what that's worth. > >It is hard to avoid angry feelings in these contexts, but it is important to >keep some sort of perspective. > >By and large, war sucks. > >Frank Teuton > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jsherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:36 AM >Subject: Re: Demeter Non-Profit - Not! > > >> Perhaps you looked in the wrong place. Demeter to the best of my knowledge >> is in NY state, not Mass. >> >> JS >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:19 AM >> Subject: Fwd: Demeter Non-Profit - Not! >> >> >> >Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:13:06 -0800 >> >From: Greg Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >X-Accept-Language: en >> >To: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Subject: Demeter Non-Profit - Not! >> > >> >Dear Allan and All Listmembers, >> > >> >On Saturday, I received in the mail a copy of "THE VOICE OF >> >DEMETER", ISSUE NO. 15, WINTER 2002. On the back cover is a plea >> >for money under the title "BECOME A FRIEND". >> > >> >
