To all especially Frank & Greg, I have NO interest in pursuing this thread. Go for it those of you who find it useful. I have NO interest of war of any kind. I am a pacifist. I believe in PEACE is what that means. Besides, you CAN have a non-profit company and NOT be tax exempt.
Because Demeter has chosen NOT to engage with us in this dialogue, I choose to no longer pursue any dialogue on this subject. As far as I am concerned, certifying agencies are worthless as are names such as organic, biodynamic, natural etc. Natural was the first of these words to be co-opted by the powers that be (economic self interest) to use it to sell unnatural products thirty years ago or more. The best way I know of to decide whether I should buy a product is to use the knowledge I have about the company IF I do not know the producer myself. KNOWING WHO IS GROWING AND PRODUCING YOUR FOOD IS THE BEST WAY TO KNOW THE VALUE OF YOUR FOOD, NOT AN OUTSIDE CERTIFYING AGENCY. Those of you who are in the business of producing, distributing, and selling food may have legitimate economic concerns about third party certifying agencies. However, as a consumer (or if I were a producer) I am firstly wanting to know my producer and failing that I would use my INTUITION when shopping to sense whether or not the food is safe, vital and local. If you don't trust your intuition and want someone else to tell/sell you what is accepted as "safe" or "organic" or "natural", well, good luck. I think you'd be best off learning to use your intuition since it is unlikely you're going to know all of the people who produce all of the food you use. And intuition is a tool that gives good advice! Know your farmer, know your shopkeeper, talk to the people who are involved in getting you your food. Learn about the distribution system and the farms involved. This is the way to engage with your community and be part of the food system in which you find yourself. When you know your producer and you trust your intuition, then certification is redundant. I would also like to know how a discussion about healing and radionics so quickly devolved into a discussion about the failings of the "old guard" of bd yet again. And has devolved once again into a sales pitch for Greg Willis' preps. How can you have a meaningful discussion about this in this venue, if all the parties will not engage? It devolves into the same old rant. It is more constructive to hear how you will change things, how the trademarking of biodynamics will change the face of bd agriculture, how this nomenclature is making certification ultimately useless, watering down what has been age old practices of working in partnership with nature. Let's hear more about your innovations and less about your litigious threats. Or please, go ahead and sue already and report back your progress. But please, please stop trying to start or continue a war with the mother (Demeter that is). Blessings, Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:23 AM Subject: FWD: Demeter Non-profit - Not! Dear Allan and Listmembers, Due to a momentary misalignment of my brain cells with my eyeballs, I
