>
>Re Geoff's questions;
>
>Several aspects of the TSE epidemics still remain unproven as yet in my mind,
>but these are mostly due to the lack of will of the funders to finance the
>necessary research projects which will unravel the answers that are required
>to prove the whole thing. This is very frustrating.
>
>For instance ( kim and Ian ) , whilst manganese 2+ has been introduced into a
>prion protein cell culture (depleted of copper)  at Cambridge Biochem lab,
>which subsequently produced the infamous  protease resistant malformed prion
>that is found in the TSE diseased brain,  those prions were not found to be
>"infectious", and were therefore not considered to be the fully fledged
>disease agent. However, a simple addition to this experiment would be to
>oxidize those manganese 2+ prions by exposing those cells to an oxidative
>attack such as UV, or OP insecticides, or ozone, or various electro magnetic
>fields to see if you can create an 'infectious' manganese 3+ prion - eg; the
>disease agent.
>
>Other aspects which have been hard to explain, as yet, is why Guernsey island
>suffered the most intensive BSE epidemic in the world when it did not use the
>high dose systemic OP insecticides on a compulsory basis - as other BSE
>countries did.
>Although they did use this insecticide voluntarily for lice control, etc, one
>would have to argue that the high levels of other oxidizing agents on the
>island ( eg ozone and ultraviolet which are high in coastal localities - like
>Staten island ) in association with the same high level of manganese
>supplementation in the calf feeds as in the UK and low levels of copper in
>the Guernsey granitic soils, would all combine to produce a hotspot for BSEs.
>Perhaps the Guernsey breed of cow is more susceptible to TSE / CNS copper
>deficiency in some way too ?
>
>Well, the whole issue of the suffering in your personal / family life is
>another story - a whole book in fact. The enemy certainly like to install
>themselves on both sides of the chess board, so they can win the game at the
>end of the day. In this respect, agent provocateurs / double agents are
>certainly employed by government- multinational corporations to set
>themselves up as bona fide chemical victims, free lance journalists, or green
>activists, etc, who then have a good reason to infiltrate your life and
>subtley undermine your credibility from every perspective, dividing you from
>your allies and key supporters / coworkers by inventing  malicious, bogus
>stories, etc.
>  And then there are those who try to intimidate you or your family via
>psychological or physical harrassment ( with firearms, etc ); But those guys
>left us alone about a decade ago after I got well connected to so called
>important people !!
>  You can basically never trust anyone who approaches you out of the blue,
>until they have proved themselves to be genuine otherwise. When I have sussed
>out the phoney types, I often just act along with them for several weeks so I
>can play their games back on them. It provides abit of amuzement to what can
>be a frustrating lifestyle at times. I have built up a whole book of records
>on these various people.
>These people become particularly active when you start getting attention,
>become successful or publish positive results over some experiment which
>nails one of their products. Any looming court case which threatens to sue
>companies for damages brings these guys out of the wood work in their
>hundreds !! The key victim support group / disease society, etc.,central to
>any group court action  often finds that its membership gets 25% plus
>infiltrated, then its leadership hijacked by some charismatic agent
>provocateur, and its victim members are quickly channelled  to a firm of two
>faced lawyers ( under the pretext of a cheap joblot service ! ) who are
>really working for the company being sued for damages. I have watched so many
>important environmental damage cases in the uK being defused in this same way
>, each time by the same bogus green group who have sufficient social skills
>to usurp control and suicide the whole case before it has even got to court.
>
>I could go on all night on that one !
>
>Best,
>
>Mark.
>
>When I was in New York State recently, I noticed just such an agent
>provocateur type character had infiltrated the organic farming group there
>and was causing psycho-politico havoc out of nothing with the long standing
>stalwart lynchpin founder member of that group - Mary-Howells Marten.  So
>watch out... you can identify these monsters from a mile off.

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