No only tomato trimming stuff. Per Garp ----- Original Message ----- From: "D & S Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 07:52 PM Subject: Re: Tomato Tee
> I have no idea where homeopathics originated, I believe modern homeopathy is > attributed to Samuel Hahnemann in the 19th Century, no doubt its roots go > back much further. > I don't know the term levees could you explain please. > When you say all plants do you include plants other than tomatoes? > David C > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "COYOTEHILLFARM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, 6 October 2002 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: Tomato Tee > > > > Thanks > > Homeopaths originated they say in Egypt ?? > > The Swedish Tomato tee-pesticide originated in a community garden east of > > Stockholm, the effects have not been tested but it work's in Sweden. > > (1970-80) > > > > As the Tomato plants grow they ware trimmed, levees and everything else, > put > > in a metal 55 gal metal barrel full of water, and then simply watering the > > plants with it, and no more pest !? > > The process continued all summer long more levees more water, remember > > Sweden are Cold so the process in temperatures less than 20C normally. > > > > I have not tested it for many years > > > > Per Garp/NH > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "D & S Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 08:05 PM > > Subject: Re: Peppering > > > > > > > I was hoping some one else would have a go at answering this, seeing as > no > > > one has, I'll try. > > > The discussion refers to a mix of Radionics, Biodynamics and > Homeopathics > > > which are believed by some on this list to be one and the same thing. To > > > give a complete explanation of this is just too big a job, please check > > the > > > archives for the previous discussion which has taken place over a long > > > period of time, years in fact. > > > You will find grape growing has also been discussed at length. > > > The broadcaster pyramid in the case I referred to is a simple pyramid > made > > > from 8 bronze welding rods with a PVC pipe holding strong magnets at > > 2/3rds > > > of its height. > > > Pyramids and Egypt go together. It is believed that the pyramids were > > giant > > > broadcasters. > > > Potentised BD preps are being used by a number of people with apparent > > > success and in conjunction with radionics. > > > Perhaps you could tell us more about your tomato solution, I have not > > heard > > > of it before and we are all eager to learn of new methods or rather new > > old > > > methods. > > > As someone new to all this I can understand your confusion, > unfortunately > > I > > > am unable to catch up with all the previous discussion in one E-mail, in > > > fact I doubt if you could fit it in one book. Please keep asking > > questions, > > > but be aware that specific questions are more likely to get the best > > > answers. > > > Regards > > > David C > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "COYOTEHILLFARM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2002 9:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: Peppering > > > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > I'm new, I'm interested in grape-growing and don't understand this > > > > discussion please explain in more detail, what is this "broadcaster > > > pyramid" > > > > and the Egypt example's . > > > > Also the Homeopath treatments like your = "BD 501 potentised to M > > potency > > > > can get rid of thistles equivalent to any herbicide" who ? ware ? I > > would > > > > like more information, As a common practice in my Childhood Sweden we > > > always > > > > had a Tomato solution as a herbicide for insects repellant's. > > > > > > > > Per Garp/NH > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "James Hedley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 08:10 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Peppering > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David, > > > > > Thanks for the good information about your pyramid broadcaster. We > are > > > > using > > > > > them in various areas all around the world. One project that I am > > > working > > > > on > > > > > at the moment is the breaking down of the pollution band that > > currently > > > > runs > > > > > from India to Indonesia by the use of a pyramid broadcaster that has > > > been > > > > > set up in Agra. This was discussed at the recent Wizards Conference. > > The > > > > > pollution bands are causing world wide havoc to climate. > > > > > The results look very encouraging at the moment, with a measurable > > > > reduction > > > > > of pollution in a band about 400 miles diameter. Observers on the > > ground > > > > > confirm the dramatic drop in pollution readings. you can visually > see > > > the > > > > > difference in the air. However early days yet and when we have > > concrete > > > > data > > > > > and statistics, shall keep you informed. > > > > > Pyramid broadcasters that only cost a few dollars to make have a lot > > > going > > > > > for them for both small scale and large scale applications. Large > > scale > > > > > applications would require a negative of an aerial or satellite map, > > > > whereas > > > > > small applications can be done from a Polaroid photograph. > > > > > > > > > > Harry Whalan who was at the Wizards Conference has made several of > > them > > > > > which seem to cover whatever area he wants them to. He just uses a > > > diagram > > > > > to direct the energetic broadcast to wherever he wants. It is being > > used > > > > to > > > > > control worms in stock, scours in his pigs, serrated tussock in the > > > rough > > > > > country and broadcasting BD preps plus anything else that it is able > > to > > > > > broadcast a pattern. In the middle of a drought area, you drive past > > > > harry's > > > > > place and it is the only green area on the road. A very good > > > advertisement > > > > > for the methods that I teach. > > > > > By the way I have not heard how your experiment of the Hugh Lovel > > > > > Broadcaster is going. > > > > > > > > > > The techniques that we teach in the workshops are extremely simple > > and > > > > cost > > > > > virtually nothing to build, or to use. In some cases just a piece of > > > paper > > > > > with a Sacred Geometrical design and the necessary rate on it > > describing > > > > > what it is that you want to do. maybe Gil would like to cut in on > this > > > one > > > > > with some comments on the work of Frank Moody in Agriculture with > such > > > > > simple things as wire Moody coils to straighten out geopathic stress > > > > lines, > > > > > and paper broadcasters and rates to really change vast tracts of > > > country. > > > > > Sometimes such a simple thing such as some embroidery cotton, cut to > > the > > > > > right lengths and put where it was needed has been sufficient to > > change > > > > > infertile countryinto productive. > > > > > The secret of Radionic broadcast does not lie in the complexity of > the > > > > > instrument , but in an understanding of the techniques that are > > > applicable > > > > > to each individual project. > > > > > It intrigues me that such an important advance in science as > developed > > > by > > > > > Ruth Drown and Abrams should be obstructed in America,, and others > > such > > > as > > > > > Tansley, De La Warr, Copen and others who have devoted their life > > trying > > > > to > > > > > unravel the intricacies of Radionics have enabled it to be accepted > in > > > > other > > > > > countries. > > > > > > > > > > Radionics is being used in other countries , even by Government > > > > departments > > > > > to overcome intractible problems which cannot be solved any other > way. > > > > Just > > > > > imagine being able to go around a 150 acre paddock and doing your > soil > > > > tests > > > > > on the spot, takes you about 10 minutes each one. No more waiting > for > > > > > results to come back. Become your own expert. The Russians are > > experts > > > on > > > > > radionic technique in Agriculture. > > > > > The problem is that as Athroposophically inclined people we can > allow > > > our > > > > > lives to be run by what we interpret as what Steiner said, but do > not > > > give > > > > > any credit for techniques that have been developed anywhere else.Use > > the > > > > > best of all the techniques, keep ourselves up with developments in > > > > > mainstream science and build an integrated system. > > > > > The reason that BD is not so widely accepted is that the proponents > of > > > the > > > > > system make claims for it that > > > > > > > > > > Unlike Glen in NZ, we are not meeting any obstruction in our > Radionic > > > Work > > > > > in Australia. > > > > > The local grape growers are becoming very interested in the use of > > > > peppering > > > > > on a large scale for keeping birds out of the vineyards. results can > > > save > > > > > vignerons thousands of dollars per hectare in lost fruit. The > > techniques > > > > are > > > > > used by Landcare groups, Greening Australia are looking at the use > of > > > > > pyramids and peppering to protect new plantings from rabbits, hares > > and > > > > > kangaroos. Using recycled microwave magnets and bronze welding rods > > you > > > > can > > > > > make a pyramid broadcaster for maybe $10. Unlike field broadcasters > > [ of > > > > > which there are as many designs and theories as there are people who > > use > > > > > them ] the pyramid broadcasters of Egypt are still there thousands > of > > > > years > > > > > later still doing what they were built to do. > > > > > At present Barbara and I are trialling burning of insects and weeds > v > > > > > decomposition, and really there is not much difference in any of the > > > > > methods. What is important in how you put it out. Forget this > > scarcity > > > > > mentality of putting a few drops in a tank of water and expecting it > > to > > > > > work. It would seem at this point that homeopathic potentising by > > > radionic > > > > > methods is the way to go. 200 litres to the ha. of BD 501 potentised > > to > > > M > > > > > potency can get rid of thistles equivalent to any herbicide. > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to catching up with you soon. > > > > > > > > > > James Hedley > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "D & S Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 11:26 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: Peppering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All: It is interesting that this subject has come up now. I'm > > > currently > > > > > > experimenting with peppers and I wasn't going to write about it > > until > > > I > > > > > was > > > > > > sure of the results, but circumstance seems to say I should. > > > > > > Over winter I built a pyramid that I saw at the Wizards of Oz > > > workshop, > > > > I > > > > > > think it originally came from James Hedley but I'm not sure. It is > a > > > > > pyramid > > > > > > frame constructed from 8 brass welding rods with very strong > magnets > > > > > mounted > > > > > > at the kings chamber height. > > > > > > I had a horde of monoleptre beetles attack a mulberry tree, this > > > usually > > > > > > leads to odd trees being completely stripped of foliage, following > > > > Barbara > > > > > > Hedleys advise I doused what to do with the pyramid. As a result I > > put > > > > the > > > > > > pyramid in the orchard, put in a map with written intent and > > squashed > > > > some > > > > > > beetles in a plastic bag, within 2 days there was noticeably less > > > > beetles > > > > > > and a week later they were all gone except for the odd confused > > > > straggler, > > > > > > this is not proof that the pepper worked, these beetles have a > > > > reputation > > > > > > for disappearing, but usually they strip the tree first in my > > > > experience, > > > > > > the tree in question is in quite good condition now. > > > > > > Flush with success I then decided to try to fix our scourge of > scale > > > > > > insects, aphids and leaf minors which always attack our roses and > > > citrus > > > > > > when they sprout new growth and flowers in spring. Spring here is > > > almost > > > > > > invariably dry and most plants become stressed until the rains > build > > > up > > > > to > > > > > > summer. > > > > > > This time the dousing said I could do it without the squashed > bugs, > > so > > > I > > > > > > just used the map and intent message. That was 5 days ago. > > > > > > This mornings investigation showed 2 aphids, the scale insects are > > > > drying > > > > > up > > > > > > and can be easily brushed off, I think they are dying. As for the > > leaf > > > > > > miners, I can't see any new activity but then I never can until > they > > > > have > > > > > > demolished the leaf. > > > > > > I am not claiming success yet but things do look promising. All > this > > > has > > > > > > been done without regard to times > > > > > > David C > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2002 7:09 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Peppering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:32 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Peppering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glen, Lloyd, et al - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years I've run into more and more farmers who simply > > make > > > > > > > > peppers whenever they collect 'enough pests.' They do this > > without > > > > > > > > concern for celestial aspects. All that have reported to me > have > > > > been > > > > > > > > successful beyond their expectations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring these good results, as is often the limitation of my > > own > > > > > > > > logic, I have to ask if you folks only pepper according to > > > > Steiner's > > > > > > > > instructions for planetary position or if you've found that > the > > > > > > > > peppers are effective made most any time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Allan > > > > > > > Hi Allan > > > > > > > I am a novice and my experience limited > > > > > > > Insect peppers made by decomposing the insect rather than > burning > > > > (this > > > > > is > > > > > > > in "Agriculture" chapter six) have worked really well for me > with > > no > > > > > > regard > > > > > > > to timing. But small areas treated and the critters only had to > > > move. > > > > > > > Weed peppers - I have made the ash per Steiner or by dowsing for > > the > > > > > > > appropriate timing - I then apply these when it fits with my > field > > > > > > > operations - I use liquid calcium molasses also to deter weeds > and > > > > will > > > > > > > potentise the spray tank with the ash of the major weed for that > > > > > paddock, > > > > > > > also do this when I foliar feed. > > > > > > > All of my physical application stuff goes out potentised - D8 > for > > > > > > starters - > > > > > > > or I'll dowse it and sometimes go way up the scale - I'm > shooting > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > dark here -Glen knows this stuff!! After two years I think I can > > see > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > effects on weeds in crops - do we want total elimination?? If > yes > > > then > > > > > we > > > > > > > better be on the ball to replace those plants with something > more > > > > > > desirable > > > > > > > before nature does the job with a tougher weed!! > > > > > > > Arthur Daikin used neat ash of mustard weed down the seeder tube > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > wheat when he planted, the photos of the crop were convincing. > > > > > > > I have used a field broadcaster on silverleaf nightshade and got > a > > > > > > > detrimental (to the weed) effect you could see with a 36 hour > > > > broadcast. > > > > > > > There are many many variables - Maria Thun advised grinding the > > ash > > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > > full hour in the mortar and pestle before potentising, I think > the > > > > > > "intent" > > > > > > > of the person doing the work definitely has an effect. > > > > > > > I collect and store material for peppering at every > opportunity - > > > bugs > > > > > and > > > > > > > weed seed are very seasonal and when you want to use a pepper > will > > > > > usually > > > > > > > not be the time to be looking for material to burn or the timing > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > I have wandered away from your original question but hope this > is > > of > > > > > some > > > > > > > use. I hope Glen and also Barbara or James Hedley will come in > on > > > > this. > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > Lloyd Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
