Rex
Thank you for this. I have only today had this sent to me.
Great isn't it. 
I have sent Owen two of my recent articles for his consideration. 
"Planting by the Moon, How can it not work?" and "Peppering - Scientists
Bane & Societies Dilemma".
They have been published in my column 'Wholistic Agriculture' in the
local ag paper. Both have gone completely unanswered by any
corresponant.

I am looking forward to replying to the newspaper on many of its points,
not least the inaccuracy of the correspondants information.

for further clarification
After the mentioned meeting I have heard nothing at all from
officialdom, so I am amazed how far this enquiry got. I would have
thought that given they have now decided to spend $90 million dollars
eradicating this pest, that they would have spent a few more dollars,
and actually got me to provide the right information for 'their
brightest minds' to consider.

The investigation costs by the NZ government agencies to date was a $300
payment for my costs in attending the meeting, and these came from the
Waitakere city council. I have had no copy of notes or minutes from this
meeting, to review as correct, before they obviously wound their version
of the proposal into their corridors.

Is this a scientific approach to investigating a proposal? Sadly this
appears to be the state of 'their' integrity and science.

We proposed a spray program over as wide an area as needed, for at least
a few life cycles of the insect. It is highly likely that from that time
on their numbers would decrease and become extinct. The field
broadcaster was added only as a secondary experiment to the primary
spray program. 

This program could easily have been accompanied by a pheromone program
from the mentioned scientist, who actually worked on the extinction of
another moth in another part of Auckland a few years ago. Interestingly
he too has not been contacted to be part of the official project this
time. 

It could have also been a cheap addition to the BT sprays they are
applying. I am sure I would have been happy with a $10,000s fee for my
part of their 90 mill. 

The phenomena this letter portrays of NZ science is a wonderful
expression of the privatised science situation we have. Once an
organisation gets the contract to deal with this pest, everyone else is
seen as a competitior, in need of slaying at all costs. So wastage of
resource, both intelligence and financial  abounds in all aspects of our
economy and culture.

In all these public forays, it seems the degree of deceit and untruth
expounded by the correspondant indicates the degree of fear and concern
'they' have. By the looks of this document 'they' are shit scared and
running. I can but smile and keep chasing them. What fun. Peppering will
not be going away anytime soon, as it works and is cheap - the basis of
the NZ farmers budgeting.

The real humour is that I have recently moved a long term infestation of
possums away from my house and garden without peppering them, just the
BD preps. Wait till they try and wrap their heads around that one.
Peppering is comparatively easy to understand compared to this. 
Vegetables now grow unprotected where in the past they only grew in
cages.

Anytime, anywhere. 
A block (aussie for male person) needs a hobby while on the planet.

loving these transits
GA

Rex Teague wrote:
> 
> On 26 Sep 02, Don/Eve Cruse wrote:
> 
> > What I really meant, however, was a battle between ideas. Such a
> > battle should not ever descend into physical conflict, although it can
> > do.
> 
> Call me naive but the sentiments of the following article - not to
> mention the motivation for writing such an attack - bewilder me. I
> hesitate to pass it along, it may however be grist to Don's mill?
> 
> NBR = 'National Business Review' a New Zealand newspaper and
> McShane's website is listed at the end, in his signature file.
> 
> ---Cut 'n paste begins---
> From: Owen McShane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: nz.politics
> Subject: My NBR column on Biodynamics
> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:23:09 +1300
> 
> Taking Pepper with a Grain of Salt
> The New Zealand Skeptics awarded this year�s �Bent Spoon Award�
> to Jeanette Fitzsimons. The Green Party Co-leader had been


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