>If you're monitoring SANET or Elaine Inghams compost tea discussion
>group, you already know that the USDA organic rules group has been
>advised to restrict the use of compost teas on food crops. This
>applies particularly to teas that use added sugars (mollasses, for
>example). Already, however, it appears that the rule may be
>generalized to 'ban' all cow manure based teas. The chances of this
>impacting BD 500 and BC is very high. Of course, this only applies to
>people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification,
>but the possibility of truly negative publicity is very high. I don't
>have all the details on these events, and what I've said above may be
>misleading.
>
>What I have to say most importantly is that we need to gather all the
>information we can on this move by the USDA organic group and discuss
>it among ourselves so we are prepared to speak out on it and more
>importantly, to talk intelligently to our customers about the
>difference between biodynamically grown foods and USDA organics.
>
>-Allan
Allan,

Such is the level of science--or is it politics?--in the USDA.

Clearly in a compost tea brewing schema sugars provide food for bacterial
proliferation, which lies at the basis of the effectiveness of compost
teas. Plus, cow manures from cows on pasture and decent grass/hay, while
rich enough in coliforms, will never have the virulent HR 157 strain
associated with feedlot beef. Just freaking out about coliforms is not good
science. You need to understand that the kinds of coliforms that occur
under healthy conditions are quite different from the kinds that occur
under bad conditions.

While Elaine has the science on her side, the big question is where the
politics will fall. She's got some big detractors in folks who want to sell
poisons and in folks who are doing large scale animal confinement from
grains processessing and don't particularly want the full story of bacteria
and coliforms to come out.

It's pretty stupid when you get right down to it. You aren't going to get
virulent coliforms in animals that don't get chronic diarrehea, such as
occurs in feedlots from the feeding of grain by-product concentrates. They
simply don't occur on pasture and hay, as the conditions aren't right for
them.  But they commonly occur in the intense confinement operations and
then there are immense recalls of meats. This is costly! The big companies
should change their methods! I know they have a set-up and are capitalized
into it, but it is costing them bigtime. Irradiation is the next fix. Going
for BandAids? Another stupid layer of the lady who swallowed the fly, then
the spider, then the mouse, then the rat, then the cat, etc. Just close
your mouth, stupid! Work on digesting the fly.

The idea of putting poison on food--and then irridiating it?!--good ole
insanity. The result would (will) be widespread death.

Let's see what we can do for Elaine in getting more of the FULL truth to
the fore.

Best,
Hugh Lovel
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