Gil,

How do you sow the oats through the previuos cover crop?

thanks,
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gil Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: RoundUp/Cover crop


> Hi! Per Garp/NH
>
> Over here we have winter rain, which is our main growing season, followed
by
> spring when most thing finish for harvest, with grapes coming in around
> February.
>
> We start with a legume peas/ fava beans, hairy vetch etc, planted on the
first
> rains. A soon as it flowers, but before it sets seed, it is slashed and
oats
> or other grain sowed through it. Again, as soon as it flowers and is still
at
> the milky stage, slash it and just let it lay on top and there is your
summer
> mulch. Some run the slasher through a couple of times to cut it shorter.
This
> should supply all the N and C required. I like to spray the freshly
slashed
> material with the compost Preps.
>
> Gil
>
> COYOTEHILLFARM wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > What type of cover crop would you recommend as a companion planting for
> > grapes ??
> >
> > Thanks
> > Per Garp/NH
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gil Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: RoundUp
> >
> > > Hi! Peter,
> > > If the cover crop is slowing vine growth, it suggests that there is a
> > > Nitrogen shortage. The cut cover crop and any mulch is mostly carbon
and
> > > needs a specific proportion of nitrogen to break it down. It is
> > > important to start with a legume with the right inoculant to help set
> > > nitrogen from the air, into the soil, in a form the plant can use. The
> > > break down of carbon, also uses large amounts of nitrogen, which may
be
> > > what has happened. When you get a "nitrogen credit" in the soil, it is
> > > OK to have a non nitrogen fixing cover crop.
> > >
> > > The use of the Preps will help the whole process. I also use the
> > > combined compost Preps, sprayed onto the freshly slashed cover crop,
> > > which seems to help it break down.
> > >
> > > If you have the time and a good Whipper Snipper, using the line, not
> > > blade, you can make a little guard on a long handle, which you can put
> > > against the butt of the vine and slash right to the butt, at ground
> > > level. I do not see properly managed cover crops as competing. They
will
> > > keep out weeds and should produce all the N and C your crop requires.
> > > While they will use some water, if slashed fairly often, they also
> > > reduce water loss from bare soil and the effect of heat on the root
run.
> > > In Oz with our mainly shallow soils, it is important to use all of it
we
> > > can. A sun dried inch or two is wasted country and it also kills
feeder
> > > roots.
> > >
> > > Gil
> > >
> > > J Peter Young wrote:
> > >
> > > > Gil, We had a marvelous green manure crop this spring which, when we
> > > > couldn't get control of it in the vine row, completely shut down
vine
> > > > growth in early summer. It is a young vineyard and apparently very
> > > > sensitive to competition. Once the green manure crop finally fell
away
> > > > natually, the more noxious north coast weeds began to appear because
> > > > of our irrigation. In some areas we did sow a clover vine row cover
> > > > crop, but it was just a competitive. It's sad that next door, my
> > > > conventional farming neighbor who uses a pre-emergent over the
winter
> > > > and then regularly applied RoundUp through teh growing season had
much
> > > > better growth and vigor with less water and a lot less fertilizer.
We
> > > > had hoped to only try to keep the 18" around each vine clear, but
that
> > > > is turning out to be impractical and next season we are going for an
> > > > 18" to 24" wide strip. The aisles will continue to have cover crop
in
> > > > them providing habitat. Our biggest concern this year is getting in
to
> > > > the vineyard at the right points in time over  the winer to use the
> > > > vinegar and the number of passes we'll have to make each season
since
> > > > vinegar has not effect on the roots. Peter
> > >
>
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