Dear Allan,
I agree with you on the use of compost teas that are just left to brew in
barrels. I have never used aeration.
It is imposible to tell what bacteria is in the mixes as it would depend on
what was in the mix. Seems to me that manure and compost teas have been used
for hundreds of years without compost tea brewers. I see that the more
complex that ypu make the techniques the less people will use it. Vote 1 for
the use of  anaerobic compost teas.
Sincere regards
James

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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: CT=BDcompost,preps+Alaska humus, forest humus & kelp


> >I will say this, though. Unlike Elaine Ingham who at least has the
courage
> >to defend her views in public forums such as SANET and the Compost Tea
list,
> >I have never seen Brinton or Bess do so, nor present a coherent argument
or
> >data in support of their critique where anyone could see it and evaluate
it.
> >I notice Allan also does not have the guts to flat out say in a forum
that
> >Elaine monitors, that he now believes Brinton and not her ('egg on my
face'
> >and like that). That's his choice and theirs, but it doesn't really help
us
> >understand the details of all this much.
>
>
> Brinton has data. He has published two studies in BIODYNAMICS in the
> 90's If anyone has the one on Barrel Compost as an effective control
> for foliar diseases, I'd appreciate it if they'd post it here.
>
> When we get this audio streaming worked out, I have Bess'
> presentation and Brinton's presentations to make available. They come
> after the awesome Fred K. "Community" post - IF we get some
> cooperation on making these files work.
>
> Come on Frank, you're sharp enough to know what I'm doing here. It's
> my job to bring ideas to the group, to keep people thinking. To keep
> the sausage rolling in the frying pan. As you concluded in your post
> otherwise: "Don't believe me, but consider this when you're thinking
> for yourself." If your pendulum is stuck, I'll be there for you. I'm
> not a primary source, but I'm happy to give you the finger...I mean
> POINTER to another, potentially valid, point of view. Let's hope that
> people get out of the easy chair and put this stuff into practice.
>
> If I can get you off from your well articulated duff and make a post
> like you have, and hopefully the follow-ups to it, I've accomplished
> what my goal was.
>
> Making a virtue of Elaine's willingness to quibble in public forums
> is rather questionable. Valid or not, I can assure you that it is
> costing her a lot of respect in some circles. After a while, no
> matter how brilliant a person is, or has been, reflective individuals
> start hoping that person will start getting more sleep - - and
> wondering how or why they don't!
>
> As for myself, this is not a 'head' issue at this point. This is a
> "get out there and do it" issue. (I will report that the best 'magic'
> effect I've seen from compost tea to date was with a batch of three
> week old almost totally ignored Will Brinton unstirred compost tea.
> Man, that stuff REALLY promoted quality plant growth.)
>
> As far as your worms, well, we can talk about that later.
>
> "Our aim is Religion, our method is Science" Break out of the castes!!
>
>

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