Priyank: what do you mean by "highlighted portion"? you can check check of
the audio cape in here
http://beagleboardtoys.info/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Audio
Maxim: cool, wanna see that mod :)



On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Maxim Podbereznyy <[email protected]>wrote:

> Audio cape can be easily modified to enable MIC BIAS. You will need two
> resistors 1k and a soldering tool. I've sent to this list a picture how to
> modify it, can do it again
>
>
> 2013/10/1 Priyank Patel <[email protected]>
>
>> Hi Meimo,
>> I just finished flashing my BBB to production image 2013.09.04 of
>> Angstrom. But, now I am more interested in installing lightweight distros
>> like gentoo or puppy linux. Preferably Gentoo (It gives inner satisfaction
>> knowing someone else is also having same setup as yours). And please do
>> send me the Awesome "Robert Nelson" kernel BBB patches. I will start
>> working on it right away. Also, we will wait till you get answer from
>> adafruit.
>> Keep fingers crossed :)
>> Priyank.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:11:39 AM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Priyank,
>>>
>>> :)
>>> Just some minutes ago I posted a question on the Adafruit support
>>> forum (I bougth two of those mic+amps for interfacing with my audio
>>> cape) asking what is the best way to inerface those mic+amps with the
>>> audio cape.
>>>
>>> As soon as I will get an answer from Adafruit, I will post it to you.
>>>
>>> One thing I forgot(?) to mention:
>>> To use the audio cape with the BBB you need to modify the kernel and
>>> the devicetree and recompile it. If you want, I will send you the
>>> needed patches based on Robert Nelsons BBB kernel (3.8.12), which are
>>> only tested for my setup but are not specific for it (I think). I am
>>> running Gentoo and NOT Angstrom!
>>>
>>> I think (but let us wait for the answer on Adafruits support forum)
>>> that the output level of the mic+amp is powerful enough to drive the
>>> audio input of the Audio cape.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> mcc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Priyank Patel <[email protected]> [13-10-01 07:56]:
>>> > Hi Meino,
>>> > I have looked up both directional and unidirectional adafruit has to
>>> offer.
>>> > The unidirectional microphone seems to be partially helping as the
>>> website
>>> > says it is ideal for the distance of 6" from the sound source (this is
>>> > hearing aid and the sound source can be far or near) .Besides that,
>>> other
>>> > concern is how would I interface it with the Audio cape (If I
>>> purchased
>>> > one). This query was produced as I do not see a mic-in audio jack.
>>> Please,
>>> > suggest me what can be steps that can be taken further. Thanks for
>>> > researching on my behalf. You guys are helping a lot. Much obliged.
>>> > Priyank.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Priyank,
>>> > >
>>> > > hope that this could be helpful?!:
>>> > > http://www.adafruit.com/**products/1063<http://www.adafruit.com/products/1063>
>>> > >
>>> > > ???
>>> > >
>>> > > Best regards,
>>> > > mcc
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Priyank Patel <[email protected]> [13-10-01 06:00]:
>>> > > > Hi Pedro,
>>> > > > I reviewed the Audio Cape IC specification file. The IC does have
>>> > > powerful
>>> > > > ADC and DAC along with support for features that I require for the
>>> > > project.
>>> > > > Here, I posted a snapshot of what I found related to the topic
>>> being
>>> > > > discussed. Full version is available at:
>>> www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/*
>>> > > > tlv320aic3106*.pdf
>>> > > > I do not understand some of the highlighted portion. Please, see
>>> if its
>>> > > the
>>> > > > same what you mentioned in your earlier reply.
>>> > > > Thanks.
>>> > > > Priyank.
>>> > > > On Monday, September 30, 2013 11:40:32 PM UTC-4, Peedro A.
>>> Melendez
>>> > > > (lazychino) wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > the audio cape IC is really powerful but note some functions are
>>> > > > > restricted by the hardware, example no microphone support(mic
>>> bias no
>>> > > > > connected). Check the audio cape files to make sure it works for
>>> your
>>> > > > > application.
>>> > > > > -Pedro
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Pedro A. Melendez <
>>> > > [email protected]<javascript:**>
>>> > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> I'm using SYBA usb audio dongle is 11 bucks and it works. It
>>> appears
>>> > > as a
>>> > > > >> second audio device if you dont disable the hdmi cape.
>>> > > > >> -Pedro
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, <[email protected]<javascript:>>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>> Hi Priyank,
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> the audio cape will do the sampling for you. This will release
>>> > > > >>> a great processing burden from the shoulders of the CPU. The
>>> > > > >>> A/D-converter (analog to digital converter) of the audio cape
>>> > > > >>> will do this for you.
>>> > > > >>> In the simpliest case, you only need to grab the samples and
>>> put
>>> > > > >>> it on SD-card/disc (raw format). This means recording. In case
>>> > > > >>> of an hearing aid, this is not that useful, since you will
>>> "hear it
>>> > > > >>> later", hahahaha! :)
>>> > > > >>> Take a deep look into the datasheet of the tlv320aic3106,
>>> which is
>>> > > > >>> TIs audio processor they put on the audio cape. This little
>>> beast is
>>> > > > >>> capable of much more than simple sampling. For example you
>>> will get
>>> > > > >>> a maximum sampling rate of 96 kHz, which means -- capable
>>> microphones
>>> > > > >>> provided -- you can sample sound up to 24 kHz.
>>> > > > >>> One thing: I dont know, how much of the features of this chip
>>> are
>>> > > > >>> build into the driver! Means: May be you will need to hack the
>>> kernel
>>> > > > >>> driver a little or a little more... ;) But as there is a
>>> driver
>>> > > > >>> already there this will not be THAT complicated.
>>> > > > >>> To get the cape running with the BBB is a little tricky
>>> (driver
>>> > > > >>> selection in the kernel (you use Robert Nelsons fantastic
>>> kernel?))
>>> > > > >>> and you need to disable HDMI and eMMC as far as I know.
>>> > > > >>> But it will definetly run with the BBB after some tweaking (or
>>> in
>>> > > > >>> other words: I have a BBB and an AUDIO cape and a LCD7 cape
>>> (A2)
>>> > > > >>> running together nicely after some hacking of the device
>>> tree).
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> HTH!
>>> > > > >>> Best regards,
>>> > > > >>> mcc
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> Priyank Patel <[email protected] <javascript:>> [13-10-01
>>> 05:12]:
>>> > > > >>> > Thanks for the quick reply. I will be sure to get the audio
>>> cape.
>>> > > After
>>> > > > >>> > getting the audio cape, I suppose, I need to capture the mic
>>> input
>>> > > and
>>> > > > >>> > sample it (I think ALSA does that?). Further, I will need to
>>> > > implement
>>> > > > >>> DSP
>>> > > > >>> > algorithms. I researched on that and found the OMAP built
>>> into the
>>> > > > >>> > beagleboard (Here I refer to the original beagleboard) has
>>> the
>>> > > ability
>>> > > > >>> to
>>> > > > >>> > do DSP functions via Gstreamer tweaking (gst-dsp project). I
>>> am
>>> > > > >>> wondering
>>> > > > >>> > if there is similar OMAP processor built into beaglebone
>>> black
>>> > > (which
>>> > > > >>> I am
>>> > > > >>> > using for my project). Please, let me know how-to deploy dsp
>>> > > function
>>> > > > >>> on
>>> > > > >>> > BBLK. Thanks. :)
>>> > > > >>> > Priyank.
>>> > > > >>> >
>>> > > > >>> > On Monday, September 30, 2013 10:53:17 PM UTC-4,
>>> > > [email protected]:
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > > Hi Priyank,
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > > two things to consider:
>>> > > > >>> > > For me "hearing aid" implies to increase the volume of a
>>> audio
>>> > > > >>> > > signal. But you cannot process signals, which do not
>>> arrive at
>>> > > the
>>> > > > >>> > > A/D-converter.
>>> > > > >>> > > The cheap USB-Audio-Dongles have a no stereo mic inout. It
>>> is
>>> > > only
>>> > > > >>> > > mono (or in other words: All USB-dongles I looked for,
>>> have a
>>> > > mono
>>> > > > >>> > > input...I didnt find any dongle with a stereo input). A
>>> hearing
>>> > > > >>> > > aid which feeds the same signal to both ears (mono) will
>>> destroy
>>> > > > >>> > > the human ability to locate sounds. While crossing over
>>> roads
>>> > > (for
>>> > > > >>> > > example)
>>> > > > >>> > > without being able to locate a sound could be fatal... ;)
>>> > > > >>> > > Furthermore it may be possible, that the input amplifier
>>> of such
>>> > > > >>> > > dongles isn't powerful enough to amplify a mic's signal.
>>> May be
>>> > > the
>>> > > > >>> > > advertising of such dongles confuses "Line In" with "Mic
>>> In" for
>>> > > > >>> > > obvious reasons.
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > > Best regards,
>>> > > > >>> > > mcc
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > > Priyank Patel <[email protected] <javascript:>> [13-10-01
>>> 03
>>> > > :59]:
>>> > > > >>> > > > Hello,
>>> > > > >>> > > > I was researching within the thread and found out that a
>>> USB
>>> > > audio
>>> > > > >>> > > dongle
>>> > > > >>> > > > might be a cheap alternative to buying a Audio cape. I
>>> just
>>> > > wanted
>>> > > > >>> to
>>> > > > >>> > > know
>>> > > > >>> > > > if it would work for my hearing aid application (i.e. to
>>> send
>>> > > an
>>> > > > >>> input
>>> > > > >>> > > to
>>> > > > >>> > > > beaglebone black and receiving it back via the same USB
>>> audio
>>> > > > >>> dongle)
>>> > > > >>> > > > p.s. I am not looking to get a very high quality sound,
>>> just
>>> > > need
>>> > > > >>> to
>>> > > > >>> > > make
>>> > > > >>> > > > it work.
>>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks in advance.
>>> > > > >>> > > > Priyank.
>>> > > > >>> > > >
>>> > > > >>> > > > On Monday, September 30, 2013 4:48:56 AM UTC-4, lisarden
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >>> > > > >
>>> > > > >>> > > > > probably you should have a look at arecord sources to
>>> figure
>>> > > out
>>> > > > >>> how
>>> > > > >>> > > to
>>> > > > >>> > > > > capture samples from a sound card
>>> > > > >>> > > > >
>>> > > > >>> > > > >
>>> > > > >>> > > > > 2013/9/30 Priyank Patel 
>>> > > > >>> > > > > <[email protected]<javascript:>>
>>> > > > >>> > > > >
>>> > > > >>> > > > >> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>> > > > >>> > > > >> Now as I stated earlier I m a beginner, I don't know
>>> where
>>> > > to
>>> > > > >>> start
>>> > > > >>> > > with
>>> > > > >>> > > > >> programming. I refer to the part where I need to
>>> sample the
>>> > > data
>>> > > > >>> > > coming
>>> > > > >>> > > > >> from a microphone and implement dsp algorithms.
>>> Please
>>> > > point me
>>> > > > >>> in
>>> > > > >>> > > right
>>> > > > >>> > > > >> direction or some references. Thanks again.
>>> > > > >>> > > > >> On Sep 30, 2013 3:43 AM, "Maxim Podbereznyy" <
>>> > > [email protected]
>>> > > > >>> <javascript:>>
>>> > > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> yes. It was discussed here already
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> 2013/9/30 Priyank Patel 
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> <[email protected]<**javascript:>>
>>>
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> Is audio cape compatible with BBLK. I think I need
>>> to
>>> > > disable
>>> > > > >>> the
>>> > > > >>> > > hdmi
>>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> functionality in order to use the audio cape.
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