Just an idea, but maybe we should create a software, hardware, kernel mailing list ?
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Bogdan Teodorescu < [email protected]> wrote: > 50 % true > > The best hardware is useless without an operating systems. Most of this > forum users are end-apllications developers, not kernel or embedded Linux > developers. they expect quick results based on their current skills > > A wise producer will allways provide a solid operating system in order to > sel his wonder hardware. Because this hardware is mainly aquired by end > applications developers (90%) and not by kernel/Linux developers. > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *On Behalf Of *William Hermans > *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2013 12:14 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant > > > > Well said Paulo, and I have to agree 100% on the instant gratification / > getting something for nothing aspect. > > > > Also the amount of posts on the group that has nothing to do with with the > hardware is staggering. Learning how to use Linux has nothing to do with > electronics or the hardware provided by circuitco. I guess the acronym > R.T.F.M. is lost on the current generation of users ? > > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Paulo Ferreira <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 30/12/2013, at 02:03, Mike Bremford <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Where is this documented? And why should I care? The above two > paragraphs are unintelligible to anyone that hasn't been involved in > embedded Linux for some time. > > > > It seems you are "barking at the wrong tree". > > Unix is a tool. A powerful tool. As all powerful tools, power should come > after some knowledge and practice. > > Think of a razor sharp kitchen knife, a chainsaw, an arc welding machine, > a forklift, a pickup truck. All those are examples of very useful tools, > but they only can be used in a productive way, after some practice time, > and after having acquired some knowledge about how they work, and how to > use them correctly. > > > The standard phrase is that Unix is very user friendly, but picky about > the friends... > > You can approach Unix at several levels: > > 1) User level - command line use of the Unix utilities, and understanding > of shell scripts > 2) Admin level - know how to manage users, programs, networking > 3) Programmer - know the POSIX programming model and all the UNIX > programming tools (config, make, gcc, etc...) > 4) Kernel developer - all of the previous ones + how to compile a kernel > > > If you want to work with BeagleBone, you must at least understand that > many people are doing all those levels on the cutting edge of technology, > and that knowledge takes time, because you need to make things, to > understand how they work. > > > The saddest thing, is that people want "things done" (or instant > gratification) without "being involved". Open Source does not work that > way, and most important, life does not work that way. > > In order to do things, in order to get what you want, you need to involve > yourself. > > > Happy New Year to All > > Paulo Ferreira > > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
