On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Bas Laarhoven <[email protected]> wrote: > On 8-4-2014 19:12, [email protected] wrote: >> >> On 08/04/14 16:36, Bas Laarhoven wrote: >> >>> Regarding the connector solder quality: Hopefully they are still tuning >>> their production process, circuitco obviously has had more time (and > >>> 100k boards) to do that! >> >> e14/Embest have been building these for quite some time, but only selling >> to China >> >> The creation date on this article is Apr 18, 2013: >> >> >> http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-54131/l/embest-bb-black-development-platform-based-on-ti-sitara-am3358-processor-exclusively-for-china >> >> Now it may be that they're tuning a process on a new production line >> that's been spun up to meet demand, but that's no reason to think they don't >> know what they're doing. It is obviously a different process to CircuitCo as >> some of your earlier observations show. We also don't know how many of these >> boards embest have already sold in China in the last year. > > > Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. Then they're obviously using lower quality > standards for their TH soldering process. > > >> >> Received one today, given that it has an AM3358 and the R8/R9 change then >> it appears to be a RevB equivalent. Older version of Angstrom, but that'll >> be getting wiped in the next few mins anyway. >> Different pre-installed image could certainly be a confusing problem for >> some people though. > > > What do you mean with older version? Both the original BBB rev B and the > Embest board show the same sw pre-loaded: > > U-Boot 2013.04-dirty (Jul 10 2013 - 14:02:53) > Angstrom v2012.12 - Kernel 3.8.13 > > > >> >> With 25 years in the electronics subcontract manufacturing business behind >> me, I personally have no concerns about the quality. I suspect e14 don't >> either or they're unlikely to have engaged in wide distribution of a board >> that they'll be directly responsible for. Not like they can RMA these back >> to CircuitCo after all. > > > What wonders me then is why circuitco is still spending money on putting > epoxy around the mini USB connector on the BBB. You seem to think that isn't > necessary? Or is it that one RMA for every thousand boards is cheaper than > spending a couple of cents during assembly, to prevent that RMA?
Gerald gets hands-on with all of the beagleboard.org RMAs coming back for the CircuitCo boards going out with the BeagleBoard.org logo through the official distributors. I think it is safe to say that Gerald doesn't like returns coming back that don't educate him on some design flaw. Hopefully element14 will care as much about the quality of boards, but only time will tell. Reviews from the community will be critical in determining how many BeagleBoard Compliant logos we provide them (http://beagleboard.org/logo), so please keep the feedback coming. The nice thing is that they should be making a donation to the BeagleBoard.org Foundation for every board shipped. CircuitCo doesn't do that because they give so much over and over again in funding the board development. > > -- Bas > > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
