From:  Brandon I <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  <[email protected]>
Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 1:18 PM
To:  <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power
down?

> For the damage question, yes, with all flash media, if you're not using a read
> only mount: http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~swanson/papers/DAC2011PowerCut.pdf
Excellent paper. Thank you for sharing.

Regards,
John
> 
> Btw, you're crazy if you're not using a read only mount (or guaranteeing no
> writes) for the rootfs of an appliance. ;)
> 
> On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:46:07 AM UTC-7, stino wrote:
>> Hi Gerald, Look I'm sorry if you took offence by my comment. It¹s an awesome
>> board, don¹t let anybody convince you otherwise  It's just that I've not seen
>> it being mentioned anywhere that a correct power down procedure is required.
>> If it was a deliberate design choice not to provide some kind of fail-safe, I
>> personally would have definitely made this clear to every buyer.  I work
>> hands-on with computer equipment of various makes and models on a daily basis
>> and I honestly can¹t remember the last time a box got bricked due to a power
>> outage.  I myself, and as I suspect many others, am thinking about turning
>> the BBB into an embedded appliance which makes the power button inaccessible.
>> 
>> Can you suggest how we can extend the powerbutton of from the board?
>> 
>> 
>> Op dinsdag 27 mei 2014 15:27:21 UTC+2 schreef Gerald:
>>> This is why there is a power button. I suggest that you go to your PC and
>>> yank the power cord. Whether it is running Linux or Windows, I suspect it
>>> won't like it.
>>> 
>>> If you can't use the power button, then yes you can design a cape that will
>>> let it gracefully shutdown properly. When I designed the board I felt that a
>>> button was less expensive that all the other stuff you would need to put on
>>> the cape. Not to mention the small form factor of the board made it tough to
>>> fit all that onto the board. And yes, in a small number of instances, we
>>> have seen that yanking the power may cause damage to the processor because
>>> the PMIC does not have enough time to power down the processor in the
>>> correct voltage sequence. So, use the power button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gerald
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> What happens, or *can* happens when you just yank the power on a PC running
>>>> Linux ?
>>>> 
>>>> 1) You can make teh file system read only.
>>>> 2) You can design or create a power cape that shutdown gracefully when
>>>> power goes missing.
>>>> ...) ???
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:32 AM, stino <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I read over at another forum that the BBB could get damaged if it recieved
>>>>> an unexpected "hard" power down.., is this true, what can we do about
>>>>> this? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seems like a serious design flaw to me. One can't expect a power source to
>>>>> be 100% stable and especially with a development board which is likely to
>>>>> used for embedded appliances this is a reall issue..
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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