On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Robert Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Eric Fort <[email protected]> wrote: > > http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img.xz > > - 470MB > > and > > > > https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/wheezy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-15-2gb.img.xz > > - 153MB > > are indeed different. > > > > could the naming convention used in each place be differentiated so one > > knows what they are getting? I.E. > > BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-YYYY-MM-DD-size-type.img.xz with type being > > descriptive such as bare, netinst, console, GNOME, KDE, BLOAT, MORE-BLOAT, > > BIGGER-BLOAT, kitchen-sink, every-existing-debian-package-preinstalled, and > > somewhere in there "will-no-longer-fit"! Might the smaller images be also > > made available / linked to on beagleboard.org? > > Sure, I can rename them "lxde" and "console". One of the issues for > me on getting them on beagleboard.org. TI/beagle people like to verify > it, so they take a day or two. The images on rcn-ee.net are merely > monthly snapshots, i do boot test them, but if we find an issue, it > usually has to wait till the next month. (although it's been pretty > regression free as of late)
If they're built from the same base as it looks like they are then generally missing software has no additional bugs or in the case of must haves can be added or updated afterwards. > > > > The images offered on > > beagleboard.org may make a good 5 minute demo but they are so stuffed > > that after doing apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on a new image one is > > left with somewhere in the 10-20MB range. try to install anything for real > > work like lm-sensors & i2c tools and you end up with no space left on > > i2c tools should be installed by default. ;) hmm, I don't think I found some of the utilities that should have been there.... no matter, trying to install that after doing an upgrade (which upgraded a total of 4 packages) put me into no space left territory ans someone really may want to play with media files which there's not enough space left for installing even a basic player or 2. > > > > device. forget about even thinking about installing what you need to play > > mp3 or video files. The smaller images really are needed, and adding a type > > field to the naming would be really helpful, as well as letting people know > > where images can be had of the type needed for their use. Those working > > mostly over serial and ssh really don't get much benefit from the graphical > > desktop and all the software it requires, thus a smaller image is extremely > > useful. > > Another thing, we could start purging the "man" pages and other things > under /usr/share/ but those built-in stuff is one of the nice things > about debian. > > and if you don't use chromium, that's 100Mb right there. > the man pages are nice and really don't take much space so I'd vote for keeping them (for that which remains installed). anything that requires X to run along with X itself can go, but I realize others may want that so differen't images for differing needs I guess. I look forward to getting the smaller image installed. actually, for lack of hitting send immediately, I'm using the https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/wheezy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-15-2gb.img.xz image and it's pretty sweet. only a couple hunderd MB used with lots of space left (as it should be). The network even works with dhclient preinstalled and running on eth0 so it gets assigned an address on my network via dhcp and I can ssh in. Couple things I noticed as being different though. first off one has to login as Debian:temppwd (no root login, and password required), sudo must be used (which one should probably do anyway), and reboot/shutdown/halt/poweroff are all missing (probably for lack of the systemd package) so the only means to reboot the machine is via pulling the power plug (or possibly pressing reset which I didn't think of until just now....) both of which require physical access to the machine. Eric > > Regards, > > -- > Robert Nelson > http://www.rcn-ee.com/ > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
