@Gerald: What else can be wrong except the hardware design?

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:25:11 UTC+2 schrieb Ulli:
>
>
> I am not sure what you mean with "to disable the buffer before until you 
> come up". 
> Directly connect the Beagle SYS_RESETn pin to the pin 29 of the Atmega`s?
>
> What would be the positive effect by using the SYS_5V. I think it is 
> directly connected to the Beagle DC plug. So, it can drive more current?
>
> Two more ideas:
>  * would it be helpful to add a 0,1µF capacitor to the beagle voltage 
> supply pins on the header, between VDD_3v3 and Gnd very close to the beagle 
> headers?
>  * would it be better to completely supply my cape from SYS_5V and create 
> the 3v for the Atmegas and the other components on the cape with the 
> MCP1703?
>
> Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:14:45 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:
>>
>> Nothing else jumps out at me. The 5V rail you are using is on before 
>> the board is powered up, but I don't think that should matter. You could 
>> switch to SYS_5V, no reason not to.As you only have four wires to the BBB, 
>> you might try adding some isolation there, and use the RESET signal to 
>> disable the buffer before until you cone up.
>>
>> There may be something else in your setup. But, schematic wise 
>> I don't see anything else.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes of course. I added this option just to run the cape for first tries 
>>> on a USB port.
>>>
>>> Could you find any other problems? I am currently thinking to connect 
>>> the SYS_RESETn of the BBB directly to the reset pin of the atmega`s?
>>>
>>> Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:06:09 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:
>>>>
>>>> Looks like you have shorting posts for your standalone versus cape 
>>>> mode. If you ever by accident plug in the standalone mode into the BBB, 
>>>> then you will damage the board for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, ulli <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
>>>>> I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not know 
>>>>> if that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle stopped 
>>>>> working because of my cape....
>>>>>
>>>>> I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have it 
>>>>> connected to the beagle.
>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/
>>>>> edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure if I understood right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently I have to options to power the cape.
>>>>>>> 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
>>>>>>>    --> Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header 
>>>>>>> Pin2-Pin3 connected on the MCP1703 side.
>>>>>>>    --> 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
>>>>>>>    --> 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input 
>>>>>>> voltage VIN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
>>>>>>>    --> Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header 
>>>>>>> Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be 
>>>>>>> generated by the cape itself...
>>>>>>>    --> 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
>>>>>>>    --> 3,3V from the beagle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the 
>>>>>>> header is available.
>>>>>>> The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for 
>>>>>>> LED`s and the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
>>>>>>> disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. 
>>>>>>>> Right now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to 
>>>>>>>> ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
>>>>>>>> they should be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. 
>>>>>>>>> --> blocking 
>>>>>>>>> <https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blocking&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> capacitor 
>>>>>>>>> <https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitor&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on>
>>>>>>>>> But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I 
>>>>>>>>> can also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
>>>>>>>>> When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up 
>>>>>>>>> one time...and thats it....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IC1. Your regulator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean with C1?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> BBB connectors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently developing a radio cape which has two 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atmega328p, 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. You 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can find the circuit in the following link:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> during operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue described in the Beagle Wiki as "Improper Power Down". I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> never 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sourced by VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally just have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand what the matter is!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> THANKS A LOT!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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