From:  Paul Hannah <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:26 PM
To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

> John,
> 
> Cheers, it's a Gicar 9.0.95.05g -- sits in a cafe-style coffee machine, though
> this'll only be the first install and the others may be different (but
> presumably similar) parts.
OK, I couldn¹t find a data sheet, but I think this is a three pin device,
GND, POWER (4.5 - 20V) and PULSE. If this is correct, then all you need is a
resistor divider as you suggested and a schmitt trigger to clean up the
signal and then feed this directly into one of the GPIO pins. The schmitt
trigger should be powered from VDD_3V3B and enabled with SYS_RESETn.

Regards,
John
> 
> On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:02:30 John Syn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From:  Paul Hannah <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
>> To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even less
>>> sure of myself in that arena...
>>> 
>>> I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
>>> 
>>> Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+ down
>>> to a safe 1.0v-ish.
>>> 
>>> My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
>>> http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage
>>> divider after.
>>> 
>>> Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
>>> 
>>> If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal diode
>>> so that the reverse current is completely stopped?
>>> 
>>> Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I can
>>> determine the number of cycles.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
>> BTW, what is the flowmeter part number. Perhaps there is a much simpler way
>> to interface this to the BBB.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Paul.
>>> 
>>> On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 14:55:09 John Syn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From:  William Pretty Security <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
>>>> To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm
>>>>>  
>>>>> Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
>>>> 
>>>> I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4 in
>>>> this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
>>>> <http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at 80uA,
>>>> but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC input. The
>>>> only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper signal conditioner.
>>>> First start with the voltage range of the input and then scale that down
>>>> with an op-amp. You can also offset the reference to deal with negative
>>>> voltage inputs.
>>>> 
>>>> To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
>>>> scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a digital
>>>> input? 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>>> Or 1N4007¹s in series = 1.4V
>>>>>  
>>>>> "No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he
>>>>> could do only a little."
>>>>> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
>>>>> nothing" Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)
>>>>> http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/bo
>>>>> ok 
>>>>> <http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/b
>>>>> ook> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Paul Hannah
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm looking to build a system to sense 'steps' of a hall-effect flowmeter.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> My first throught is to use a voltage divider and rectifier circuit to get
>>>>> down to the 0-1.8v I need.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem I have is that every install may potentially have a different
>>>>> input voltage.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm wondering if there's a simpler way to do this. I really only need to
>>>>> clip the voltage between 0-1.8v, it doesn't matter if it spends 90% of
>>>>> it's time clipped and throws away the negative half of the signal
>>>>> completely as I'm only interested in a count.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> The current draw will be in the millivolt-range used by the adc input, so
>>>>> it shouldn't need anything too heavy.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> My first thought is a simple voltage regulator set to 1.8v, but I don't
>>>>> know enough about them to know whether it's a viable option or which to
>>>>> choose.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any suggestions?
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