I Powered one from a USB power supply only with no random reboots

On 7/19/2015 9:45 AM, Graham Haddock wrote:
> Yes, I will go run the USB-Power test.
>
> I guess my question is... are you are powering your BBB from the USB
> port on a computer, or, are you powering your BBB via the USB port
> from something like a power supply or cellphone charger, which does
> not have a computer and USB driver in it.
>
> If you are powering the BBB from a computer, and that computer has the
> BBB driver on it, that allows you to see the BBB's internal web site,
> etc, then, even though you are not using it, when you plug it in, the
> driver comes up and starts polling the BBB at 1000 times per second,
> to see what is going on. A lot is happening at the lower levels of USB
> that take time to service on the BBB.
>
> --- Graham
>
> ==
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:14 AM, William Hermans <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         /Or, are you just powering it via the USB connector and not
>         using/engaging the USB subsystem in the BBB?/
>
>
>     Not sure if g_multi or g_ether is setup on this image. In either
>     case, I'm only using ethernet. I'll look though. *looks*
>
>         /Looks like the answer is "no"./
>
>         /debian@beaglebone:~$ lsmod/
>         /Module                  Size  Used by/
>         /snd_soc_evm             5854  0/
>         /omap_rng                5140  0/
>         /rng_core                8755  1 omap_rng/
>         /snd_soc_davinci_mcasp    18528  2/
>         /snd_soc_edma            1166  1 snd_soc_davinci_mcasp/
>         /snd_soc_hdmi_codec      2514  1/
>         /uio_pdrv_genirq         3657  0/
>         /uio                     9930  1 uio_pdrv_genirq/
>
>      
>     Anyway, I can understand that you may not want to use USB to power
>     the device. However as a test to see if vbus / vusb is floating .
>     . . this can not really hurt to power via USB for a little while
>     during tests.
>
>     Once it is established that this problem is related or not, then
>     you and others can act accordingly. Grounding the necessary lines,
>     or not.
>
>     This really makes sense to me though, at least from my own
>     perspective. Since I'm not having the problems you all are having
>     with the same kernels. Passed that, if it does not pan out. Well,
>     a little wasted time, but well worth the effort considering this
>     problem seems to plague several people. Easy enough to test anyway
>     . . .
>
>     On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Graham Haddock
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         My advice to Erik is that, if he has something important to
>         do, to go back to an official release.  He should use a "Beta"
>         release only if he can afford the additional problems it might
>         bring, and in this case there are some.  In my application for
>         the BBB, I do not use or want to use the USB connector. The
>         previous kernels worked fine with the +5V power.  Although the
>         +5V versus USB power behavior could be an important clue to
>         what the problem is.
>
>         ==
>
>         When you say "powered by USB" are you also running the USB
>         g_multi interface to a PC and engaging the driver in the PC?
>
>         Or, are you just powering it via the USB connector and not
>         using/engaging the USB subsystem in the BBB?
>
>         I think there are (at least) two variables here.
>
>         I will go power my BBB via the USB connector, which will power
>         the Vusb line, but without any USB activity on the USB
>         connector and see what happens.
>
>         I agree that systemd is not the likely problem, since kernel
>         3.14 uses systemd, and works fine, USB or +5V connector.
>
>         My personal observation is that the less the BBB is doing, the
>         more likely the self-reboot is to happen.
>         If I turn off the four blinking blue LEDs, with the BBB not
>         doing anything else, the reboots seem to happen more often.
>         So, if you are powering the USB connector from a computer, it
>         may be the USB activity, not the power source that is changing
>         the behavior.
>
>         --- Graham
>
>         ==
>
>
>
>         On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:11 AM, William Hermans
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>             Graham, thats where you're wrong. I've been using all
>             those testing kernels EXACT SAME KERNELS you've been
>             having troubles with. Except, I'm not having troubles with
>             them. Why ? Becasue I'm powering via USB.
>
>             So if you REALLY want to prove the problem this won't work
>             for *you* try powering via USB . . .
>
>             On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Graham
>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>                 Eric:
>                 You never said what you were trying to do with the
>                 BBB, and why you need Debian 8.1/kernel 4.x.x.
>                 As you have seen, it is temporarily broken, but is
>                 being worked on. This is a "test" release, and not
>                 recommended for active use, unless you like
>                 adventures, like you are having.
>
>                 If you need the capemanager, consider Debian
>                 7.8/kernel 3.8
>
>                 If you don't need the capemanager, but need some other
>                 benefit of Debian 8, then use Debian 8.x and kernel 3.14.
>
>                 Both of these options are solid, do not reboot by
>                 themselves, and don't care whether it is powered from
>                 the 5V barrel connector or USB.
>                 --- Graham
>
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