>
> *Yeah, but rsync only gives you a snapshot and not a history of your
> backup. When I really mess up, I want to go back to the state of my machine
> 15 minutes ago, or two days ago. This has saved me a lot of head
> scratching, trying to find out where I messed up. I really like the way
> timemachine works on the MAC. I can add as many disks as I want to the
> timemachine and it just sequences the backups between each of these disks.
> This happens every 15 minutes. If I loose a disk, then I loose 15 minutes
> of work. *
>


   - a) rsync for files that do not need incremental backup. e.g. pictures
   etc.
   - b) git for files that do.
   - c) dd, and /or tar for the whole OS file system.
   - d) Fancy scripts or executable to put it all together. If wanted.


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:22 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, but rsync only gives you a snapshot and not a history of your
> backup. When I really mess up, I want to go back to the state of my machine
> 15 minutes ago, or two days ago. This has saved me a lot of head
> scratching, trying to find out where I messed up. I really like the way
> timemachine works on the MAC. I can add as many disks as I want to the
> timemachine and it just sequences the backups between each of these disks.
> This happens every 15 minutes. If I loose a disk, then I loose 15 minutes
> of work.
>
> I also have a SMART monitor that keeps an eye on the condition of these
> disks, looking potential disk failures.
>
> For Linux, I haven’t found anything equivalent to timemachine. BackinTime
> and the likes all try to do the same thing, but after a few weeks they all
> end up using tons of CPU time and become so slow. In essence, these
> solutions use rsync to create snapshots each hour and then use hard links
> to eliminate duplicating unchanged files. Currently I’m using Crashplan
> which performs well, but I don’t get the redundancy.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:45 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> For my usage, RAID is useless. Better to use separate disks, and rsync. As
> most data does not need to be redundant, and you get more storage that way,
> with very little to go wrong.
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 7:32 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A few years ago I was backing up all my data to a raid6 server. My
>> thinking was any two disks can fail simultaneously and I still would not
>> loose data. Unknown to me, I was using an Intel RAID controller that had a
>> firmware bug and it trashed all my disks and I lost about 6 months of work.
>> Now I do my backups with belts and braces so nothing like that can ever
>> happen again. I now have multiple RAID servers which mirror each other and
>> no one machine has components in common with the other machines. To me,
>> cloud backup was just another redundant offsite backup, but the Amazon
>> tools are horrible and the service hangs for no reason. Needless to say
>> after fighting this all last night, I decided to abandon the Amazon cloud
>> drive.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:23 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> *My guess is you do normal backups of all your important work; however,
>>> what if you have a fire, theft, or some other disaster, which will destroy
>>> all your backups as well. Hence the need for offsite storage. Now unless
>>> you are storing your backup tapes/disks offsite, cloud storage starts to
>>> make sense.*
>>>
>>
>> This is the "excuse" if everyone using cloud storage. Simple fact is,
>> there is no data I have stored that is that important. All of it can be
>> replaced. Pictures, code, whatever.
>>
>> Not to mention a fire is very unlikely, but if there were one, if I were
>> not able to put it out, it would likely kill me anyhow. Rendering my data
>> moot. Theft ? well lets just say a thief would very likely have  few dogs
>> on him, as well as a couple bullet holes. Someone is always here.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Robert Nelson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2015 2:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: UTF-8, 116 lines
>>> --]
>>> > >
>>> > > My guess is you do normal backups of all your important work;
>>> however,
>>> > > what if you have a fire, theft, or some other disaster, which will
>>> destroy
>>> > > all your backups as well. Hence the need for offsite storage. Now
>>> unless
>>> > > you are storing your backup tapes/disks offsite, cloud storage
>>> starts to
>>> > > make sense.
>>> > >
>>> > My offsite storage is in my garage which, fortunately, happens to be
>>> > 50 metres or more from the house.
>>> >
>>> > Our broadband isn't broad enough to make cloud backup remotely
>>> sensible.
>>>
>>> I like my backup-backup nas.. The base board is bricked.. So the data is
>>> securely saved.. ;)
>>>
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