>
> *a) rsync for files that do not need incremental backup. e.g. pictures
> etc.*
>

And by this of course I mean: Perhaps you have a whole directory for
pictures, and those that have already been backed up using rsync wont need
it done again. But if you add new files in a new directory . . .then let
git handle paths that do need incremental backups. Daily, hourly, whatever.
Usually source, but who says that a local repo has to be source ?

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:37 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:

> *Yeah, but rsync only gives you a snapshot and not a history of your
>> backup. When I really mess up, I want to go back to the state of my machine
>> 15 minutes ago, or two days ago. This has saved me a lot of head
>> scratching, trying to find out where I messed up. I really like the way
>> timemachine works on the MAC. I can add as many disks as I want to the
>> timemachine and it just sequences the backups between each of these disks.
>> This happens every 15 minutes. If I loose a disk, then I loose 15 minutes
>> of work. *
>>
>
>
>    - a) rsync for files that do not need incremental backup. e.g.
>    pictures etc.
>    - b) git for files that do.
>    - c) dd, and /or tar for the whole OS file system.
>    - d) Fancy scripts or executable to put it all together. If wanted.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:22 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but rsync only gives you a snapshot and not a history of your
>> backup. When I really mess up, I want to go back to the state of my machine
>> 15 minutes ago, or two days ago. This has saved me a lot of head
>> scratching, trying to find out where I messed up. I really like the way
>> timemachine works on the MAC. I can add as many disks as I want to the
>> timemachine and it just sequences the backups between each of these disks.
>> This happens every 15 minutes. If I loose a disk, then I loose 15 minutes
>> of work.
>>
>> I also have a SMART monitor that keeps an eye on the condition of these
>> disks, looking potential disk failures.
>>
>> For Linux, I haven’t found anything equivalent to timemachine. BackinTime
>> and the likes all try to do the same thing, but after a few weeks they all
>> end up using tons of CPU time and become so slow. In essence, these
>> solutions use rsync to create snapshots each hour and then use hard links
>> to eliminate duplicating unchanged files. Currently I’m using Crashplan
>> which performs well, but I don’t get the redundancy.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:45 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> For my usage, RAID is useless. Better to use separate disks, and rsync.
>> As most data does not need to be redundant, and you get more storage that
>> way, with very little to go wrong.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 7:32 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A few years ago I was backing up all my data to a raid6 server. My
>>> thinking was any two disks can fail simultaneously and I still would not
>>> loose data. Unknown to me, I was using an Intel RAID controller that had a
>>> firmware bug and it trashed all my disks and I lost about 6 months of work.
>>> Now I do my backups with belts and braces so nothing like that can ever
>>> happen again. I now have multiple RAID servers which mirror each other and
>>> no one machine has components in common with the other machines. To me,
>>> cloud backup was just another redundant offsite backup, but the Amazon
>>> tools are horrible and the service hangs for no reason. Needless to say
>>> after fighting this all last night, I decided to abandon the Amazon cloud
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:23 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> *My guess is you do normal backups of all your important work; however,
>>>> what if you have a fire, theft, or some other disaster, which will destroy
>>>> all your backups as well. Hence the need for offsite storage. Now unless
>>>> you are storing your backup tapes/disks offsite, cloud storage starts to
>>>> make sense.*
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is the "excuse" if everyone using cloud storage. Simple fact is,
>>> there is no data I have stored that is that important. All of it can be
>>> replaced. Pictures, code, whatever.
>>>
>>> Not to mention a fire is very unlikely, but if there were one, if I were
>>> not able to put it out, it would likely kill me anyhow. Rendering my data
>>> moot. Theft ? well lets just say a thief would very likely have  few dogs
>>> on him, as well as a couple bullet holes. Someone is always here.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Robert Nelson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 28, 2015 2:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: UTF-8, 116
>>>> lines --]
>>>> > >
>>>> > > My guess is you do normal backups of all your important work;
>>>> however,
>>>> > > what if you have a fire, theft, or some other disaster, which will
>>>> destroy
>>>> > > all your backups as well. Hence the need for offsite storage. Now
>>>> unless
>>>> > > you are storing your backup tapes/disks offsite, cloud storage
>>>> starts to
>>>> > > make sense.
>>>> > >
>>>> > My offsite storage is in my garage which, fortunately, happens to be
>>>> > 50 metres or more from the house.
>>>> >
>>>> > Our broadband isn't broad enough to make cloud backup remotely
>>>> sensible.
>>>>
>>>> I like my backup-backup nas.. The base board is bricked.. So the data
>>>> is securely saved.. ;)
>>>>
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