>
> *Is there a new branch of the am335x_pru_package using remoteproc that
> I've missed? alternatively does anyone know what i would have to include to
> get uio back up and running again without changing kernels? I'm trying to
> keep my software package as a fairly simple install that runs on all stable
> "latest-images." It's already a bit of a fuss having to modify and
> recompile the am335x-boneblack.dtb file for each image just to tweak i2c
> speeds.*
>
> *thank you for any and all help!*


You have to change kernels. You *may* be able to recompile a TI kernel to
do the same thing as I've shown above, but I know for a fact a *bone image
will work. I recall someone saying previously that TI's kernel can no
longer be made to use uio_pruss, but perhaps that's within the context of
.config options ?

Another thing. version numbers between these kernels means nothing. There
are a few things the TI kernel does thatthe bone kernel does not. But
unless you're using thee features, who cares ?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:11 AM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:

> William, you are over thinking this. It isn’t that complicated. If you
> don’t want to take the time to learn something new, then don’t, but don’t
> bad mouth something you don’t understand. There are enough examples and
> documentation out there if you only take the time to look, which is the
> advise you give all the time. RemoteProc/Virtio/RPMSG are a standardized
> way to load code into a remote processor, start/stop that code and exchange
> events/messages between processors. Once you understand that, you can
> create code that can do almost anything, including the examples you listed.
>
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 13, 2015, at 4:05 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It's a BS example because it does not illustrate how remoteproc and rpmsg
> are useful. It also does not illustrate how to access the hardware modules
> through this technology. Here . . .
>
> Something useful -> https://github.com/boxysean/beaglebone-DMX
> Something else useful -> https://github.com/pgmmpk/beaglebone_pru_adc
> Yet another something useful ->
> https://github.com/abhishek-kakkar/BeagleLogic
>
> All these have been in the wild for a long time. They work, and the
> hardware / software paradigm is well known, and explained many times all
> over the web.
>
> Show us how to blink USR0, then explain how that works. Or even show us
> how to use any on die hardware module, or something that can be "plugged
> in" to demonstrate an immediate result. Without having to hook up external
> electronics / circuits.
>
> That is why uio_pruss is better than remoteproc. People understand it, or
> if they do not, they can read about it, and grasp the concept fairly
> quickly. Because there is a lot of good documentation, and many, many good
> examples that cover just about any on die hardware module.
>
> Anyway, I think the burden is actually on you, to explain to me, and
> others why remoteproc / rpmsg is any good and should be used. Since,
> uio_pruss has been around since 2011 or earlier, and is perfectly
> functional. With that said, regurgitating sentiments such as "bla blah blah
> has adopted x.y.z" is going to do you no good. We do not care who as
> adopted what, and why. We want to know why remoteproc, and rpmsg is worth
> out time investment. Especially considering we already have a large time
> investment with uio_pruss.
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:40 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How is that a BS example? The example shows an ARM kernel module sending
>> a message to the PRU, which interrupts the PRU, which then copies the
>> message from the PRU rx buffer to the PRU tx buffer, which then executes a
>> callback on the ARM kernel module. You should be able to take that code and
>> make it do anything you need.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2015, at 3:21 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> By real world I mean a real world useful example. Not some BS spit 100
>> "hello" messages out into dmesg.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:19 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so show us a real world example of rpmsg.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 3:53 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so maybe you can explain why you think there is a difference
>>>> between writing PRU firmware targeting PRUSS vs PRU firmware targeting
>>>> remoteproc? The only difference is the API. You can build the firmware for
>>>> each in the same way. The only reference to CCSV6 is the examples TI
>>>> created for remoteproc. Someone updated those examples to build with GCC.
>>>> So I don’t understand what you mean by forced to use “close source tools”.
>>>> Nothing in remoteproc is closed source. All remoteproc does is load the
>>>> firmware on the PRU and then start the code. virtio_rpmsg_bus handles the
>>>> communications between ARM and the PRU.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 13, 2015, at 12:43 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We're not talking about the X15 in this post, and personally, I
>>>> probably won't be using an X15 for a long, long time. Too much board, for
>>>> too much money.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 1:30 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Remoteproc/RPMSG is a standard in mainline for interfacing ARM to
>>>>> other processors on the same SOC. On the x15, this will be the only way 
>>>>> you
>>>>> can interface to the DSP, M4’s, etc. Other vendors have adopted this
>>>>> solutions as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 13, 2015, at 12:25 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, not to argue, but my point of view. I have no problem with people
>>>>> using remoteproc, *if* that's what they want to do. At the same time, I
>>>>> feel that it should not be "forced down our throats", because right now, 
>>>>> it
>>>>> is not ready for prime time. uio_pruss is a known quantity, lots of people
>>>>> have documented their use of it, and remoteproc is barely documented at
>>>>> all. Passed that, from what I've seen so far, only closed source tools can
>>>>> be used with remoteproc, on the beaglebones.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did see someone post a gcc "port" of one of Jason Reeders guides . .
>>>>> . but no mention of toolchain setup, or anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> So until documentation is up to snuff, and we're not forced to use
>>>>> close source tools. I'll always consider remoteproc as something not to be
>>>>> used seriously. I'm sure I'm also not alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 1:17 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *With newer kernels, you need to use the standard Linux remote-proc*
>>>>>>> * interface, rather than the legacy UIO driver.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not exactly. Only if you're using the *TI kernels. The *bone kernels
>>>>>> have uio_pruss enabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> william@beaglebone:~$ *uname -r*
>>>>>> 4.1.12-bone-rt-r16
>>>>>> william@beaglebone:~$ *sudo sh -c "echo 'pru_enable' >
>>>>>> /sys/devices/platform/bone_capemgr/slots"*
>>>>>> william@beaglebone:~$ *./ti/lsuio-0.2.0/lsuio*
>>>>>> uio7: name=pruss_evt7, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>> uio6: name=pruss_evt6, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>> uio5: name=pruss_evt5, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>> uio4: name=pruss_evt4, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>> uio3: name=pruss_evt3, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>> uio2: name=pruss_evt2, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>> uio1: name=pruss_evt1, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>> uio0: name=pruss_evt0, version=1.0, events=0
>>>>>>         map[0]: addr=0x4A300000, size=524288
>>>>>>         map[1]: addr=0x9E880000, size=262144
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The pru_enable  device tree file is pretty simple too:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /dts-v1/;
>>>>>> /plugin/;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> / {
>>>>>>     compatible = "ti,beaglebone", "ti,beaglebone-black";
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     /* identification */
>>>>>>     part-number = "pruss_enable";
>>>>>>     version = "00A0";
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      fragment@0 {
>>>>>>              target = <&pruss>;
>>>>>>            __overlay__ {
>>>>>>                       status = "okay";
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    };
>>>>>>         };
>>>>>>
>>>>>> };
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, yes, everything works fine. I've tested various PRU git
>>>>>> projects, and they all seem to work fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Charles Steinkuehler <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/13/2015 4:37 AM, Strawson wrote:
>>>>>>> > Sadly I'm running into the same missing uio directories now that
>>>>>>> I'm trying
>>>>>>> > to get my beaglebone code that was stable on the 3.8 kernel and
>>>>>>> Wheezy
>>>>>>> > image. My old compiled dtbo wouldn't load with a 4.1 kernel until
>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>> > recompiled. Even with it loaded, the following modules don't load:
>>>>>>> PRU,
>>>>>>> > eQEP, PWM, and GPIO_buttons. I spent today hacking together
>>>>>>> workarounds for
>>>>>>> > the latter 3, but the PRU still has me stumped.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Looking closely, the am335x-boneblack.dtb file has changed quite a
>>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>> > Once decompiled I have the following entries for the PRUSS:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With newer kernels, you need to use the standard Linux remote-proc
>>>>>>> interface, rather than the legacy UIO driver.
>>>>>>>
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