On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Wally Bkg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 3:26:37 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Wally Bkg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > So you are saying I will still need to stay with the 7.9 image series
>> > for
>> > BoneScript for the foreseeable future?
>>
>> or install the 3.8.x based kernel on jessie.
>
>
> Other than the  Bonescript PWM analogWrite() not working and the other
> "harmless" error messages thrown, its hard to see how either would make a
> difference to my friend.  He is not in a position to do a lot of image
> downloading or apt-get updating for lack of adequate Internet bandwidth at
> his rural location (he's actually "off-grid" running on solar power).
>
> The fact remains I could not explain why anyone should use Jessie over
> Wheezy, or vice-versa, other than "Jessie is newer and is the future".  But
> if the 3.8.x kernel on Jessie fixed the PWM and error message nags I'd
> quickly install it before I give him the BBG and proto-plate setup I've made
> to get him started.
>
>
>>
>>
>> > Can I get to 8.3 2016-01-24 from 8.2 2015-12-06 with apt-get updates and
>> > installs? or should I download the new image and start over?
>>
>> Yes/No
>>
>> Yes, you will get the same packages..
>>
>> No, you will not get the "extra" packages/things i added to
>> "2016-01-24"...
>
>
> If the extra stuff is all apt-get installable, a simple list of packages

It's in the commit log: "bb.org: jessie:"

https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder/commits/master

> removed or added for the updated images would seem to save a lot of
> elinux.org download bandwidth. I assume that is also the reason for the
> *.bmap versions.

bandwidth is cheap, only pushed out 1.5TB last month...

>
>> > I think the "top level" beaglebone.localhost web page needs some serious
>> > updating as the link:
>> > http://192.168.7.2/bone101/Support/BoneScript/updates/
>> > is still talking about Angstrom.
>>
>> That repo is right here:
>>
>> https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-getting-started
>>
>> go ahead fork it and submit pull requests.
>
>
> I would if I actually knew what the answers and changes were.  But it'd be
> ugly as I've never authored a webpage nor have I any experience with web
> authoring tools of any kind.  Authoring a webpage is just not on my bucket
> list.  Although writing some PRU code is :)
>
> I've had Beaglebones since the White, but this is the first time I've
> actually tried to do anything with Cloud9 and Bonescript.  Pointing out the
> problems I've found was in the hope that someone in position to fix it would
> be made aware.  I'm perfectly willing to accept that Beagleboard.org has
> given up on "beginners" instead focusing on near experts that want the PRU
> or DSP of the X-15.  Other than not having on-board A/D and a much lesser
> number of GPIO pins my friend would otherwise likely be better served with a
> Raspberry Pi2.
>
> Node-red is great, it'll be awesome if a few issues get fixed, having it
> work in a downloaded image is a very good thing IMHO, although the
> installation instructions on the node-red website are very good.

nah i have better ones today: (jessie/stretch rootfs)

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install bb-node-red-installer


>> Angstrom is dead, it's maintainer left for a job at linaro, NO ONE has
>> stepped up since the fall of 2013 to pick up maintenance.
>>
>  Re forking the above, I'm in no position to declare "Angstrom Dead" on a
> website or a forum post, although I've suspected it, given the lack of
> updates since about 2013.  Although in my limited use of it and some of the
> recent Debian images with my A5A BBB HDMI it seemed Angstrom GUI was more
> responsive, although a lot more limited.
>
> I've given up on BBB HDMI, as I'm finding the GUI apps I want to use mostly
> work better with ssh -X anyway,  which is pretty neat when I run them on the
> BBG :)   Although it doesn't take a lot of GUI app installations to overflow
> the 4GB eMMC.
>
> I'm not sure that no one stepping up for Angstrom is such a bad thing,
> Debian is much better documented (probably the most complete of all distros)
> and all the really "minimal" Linux systems seem to be moving to Yacto
> project.  I've always though there has been too much duplicated effort in
> Linux.

Regards,

-- 
Robert Nelson
https://rcn-ee.com/

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