>
> *You are talking about a computer which doesn't interface directly to
> buses like I2C, SPI, GPIO, I2S, etc*
>

Have you ever used a true bare metal board ? Something that only has an MCU
for the boards main processor ? Such as PIC32, Cortex M0/0+, M3, M4, or an
MSP430 ?

It would not be hard to combine one, or multiples of these types of
embedded devboards to even a regular PC. USB also does not have the  be the
medium of communication either. Communication could be done over ethernet,
wifi, bluetooth, *or* USB and remain practical.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:47 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’m not saying the NUC isn’t a great deal, but it is targeting a different
> market to the x15. You are talking about a computer which doesn't interface
> directly to buses like I2C, SPI, GPIO, I2S, etc. Connecting these buses via
> USB is a real headache. You cannot use a Linux driver for devices connected
> to these buses. You have to write your own user space drivers. The only
> solution I know of that compares to the x15 is the Qualcomm Snapdragon
> Evaluation board, which has CortexA15, GPU, DSP and direct access to
> peripherals. Problem is, this board is over $1,000.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 2:31 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> That depends what one wants to do John. Such a board with additional
> hardware could be made to do the same job as any embedded system.
>
> So, what if you need just a few embedded peripherals, but need an
> incredibly solid M.E.A.N. stack ? Mongo is currently not fully functional
> on armhf ABI's. So in this context it makes perfect sense. I can probably
> also dream up other situations as well if i cared to.
>
> Cost wise, it may not make sense, and efficiency wise it also may not make
> sense. But these are factors that not everyone cares about.
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 2:10 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure how you make this comparison. You are comparing a processor
>> to a SOC (System on Chip). The AM5728 has direct access to GPIO, SPI, I2C,
>> PCIe, USB3, UART, etc. The Pentium does not have direct access to these,
>> but access PCI, USB3, UART via North/South bridge. No direct access to any
>> of the other peripherals supported by the AM5728. In addition, the AM5728
>> supports Dual CortexM4, Dual DSP and Quad PRU. Comparing these boards makes
>> no sense. They are used for completely different markets.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Intel NUC.
>> Your choice of Celeron, Pentium, i3, i5 or i7. (uses laptop processors)
>> 4 inches by 4 inches circuit board.
>> You can get a quad core 2.4 GHz Pentium (including a case) for less than
>> the X-15.
>> Go to Amazon.com <http://amazon.com/>, search for "Intel NUC NUC5PPYH"
>> (The X-15 now seems to be up to $259 USD at Mouser, with deliveries
>> starting this month.)
>> The NUC still needs plug-in DRAM, a laptop disk drive, and an OS.
>> Works fine with Linux.
>> If you want to run a bunch of GPIO, you will have to go out through FTDI
>> USB to I2C or SPI, then use expander IC's.
>>
>> --- Graham
>>
>> ==
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 10:47:31 AM UTC-6, [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any other boards out there with a comparable spec to the X15?
>>> I'd like to see what else is available, especially with this kind of
>>> chipset and performance.
>>>
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