We're getting off topic,  but ...

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-6, William Hermans wrote:
>
> *Frankly all this /sys/class/ file read/write and device-tree overlay 
>> stuff is a nightmare and nobody seems to care if changes break anything 
>> (it especially breaks the documentation such as it is).  To expect/demand 
>> that a non-programmer  jump into it to be able to do anything is absurd.*
>>
>
> I do not know . . . I guess I will always view "solutions" that include 
> labview, or node-red( this type of thing ) as an excuse to not have to 
> learn how to write code. Which I view as an incredibly lame excuse . . . 
> because. This gives people who do not understand a system the ability to 
> build that system. Further, it keeps them from understanding the system 
> it's running on, unless they push themselves. Which I doubt most will do.
>

I bet you drive a car, but could you build one, fix the transmission, etc? 
 Do you need to know how to build a computer to program one?  Are the guys 
at TI designing the SOCs programming experts? -- I'd wager not, given how 
bizarre some of the device driver code ends up being -- I'd bet the 
attitude is: "if it saves a micro-cent per chip, fix it later in software!"
 

What will your friend do when he runs into a problem that is not easily 
> solved with, or is not solvable with this current solution ?
>

Odds are he'd do the same as you'd likely do when your car breaks down or 
your A/C unit dies -- call in someone with the expertise that you lack to 
come help you out.

In my friend's case, that'd be me, in which case I'd would likely 
be jumping quickly into the nodeJS C/C++ add-ons mentioned above, and build 
him a few node-red function nodes to deal with it.

 

> Anyway, with the above aside, I get why you are interested in node-red 
> now. I've a friend here who is a very good EE too, but does not like to 
> code. So perhaps this is something he would do too. If I did not write code 
> for his hardware projects that need it.
>
 
I'd suggesting watching  a few of the node-red youTube vidoes out there, 
 If I were building appliances and wanted to add some "smarts" to them and 
jump on the current Internet Of Things bandwagon, something like node-red 
and open source SOC boards like the BB could be a game changer.

If my friend lived close by I'd probably have just offered to code for him 
too, but he wanted/expected to need to learn at least some programming and 
initially asked me to help decide what would be a better starting point -- 
Arduino, PIC, Beaglebone, Raspberry Pi -- small systems he'd heard about. 
 After talking to him, once A/D and networking were in the mix the 
Beaglebone choice seemed clear and I stumbled across node-red pretty much 
by accident, but bells went off once I ran the second demo!  My initial out 
of the box experiences with Cloud9 and Bonescript on a shinny new BBG were 
less than stellar, but that's another story :)

--wally.

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