> On Apr 30, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Robert Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Joseph Heller
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I just stumbled upon an issue I had encountered a year ago as well, and
>> would like to share some thoughts on this here. All help appreciated, don't
>> get me wrong, and I'm sure it will be resolved but I recalled some things
>> missing the first time when I had the issue, which still seem to be missing
>> now. It is things missing like: are there release notes,
> 
> 
>> is there a bug
>> tracker,
> 
> github:
> 
> https://github.com/beagleboard/
> 
>> differentiation between stable and unstable releases,
> 
> no diff, it's a rolling model..
> 
>> a wiki that's
>> kept up-to-date,
> 
> it is, the issue is "3rd party" wiki's..
> 
>> and what happens if someone crucial is leaving the team?
> 
> He did. that's why we don't ship Angstrom by default..
> 
> Just to scare you more, i drive an hour every morning and night thru
> dark country roads in north minnesota with lots of deer running around
> to get to my Day Job.
> 
> Everything i use to build the debian image is on my github account. So
> when i smack a 30 point buck or a moose, it should be easy for someone
> else to pick up.
> 
>> Now that got me thinking: could it be that this is the underlying reason for
>> issues like these in general? The reason for me to bring it up is that I'm
>> actually wondering if spending my time and effort on the Beaglebone is the
>> best investment, or that there's alternative solutions. The Beaglebone is
>> known to be an SBC with a steep learning curve, but I did not expect to be
>> spending time on the issues just mentioned. As an experiment, I have an
>> outstanding order which I wonder if that suits me better in the long run if
>> issues occur. So in that sense, this is feedback on something that looks to
>> me as the weak spot of the Beaglebone. I truly think the board is a very
>> good platform from hardware point of view, but it would be a pity if due to
>> the issues mentioned it will not survive competition. My guess, and maybe
>> the hard part, is that suggested improvements are not easily decided upon
>> and implemented by the community - although here's my contribution by
>> starting a discussion and sharing thoughts about it. It's more like defining
>> a strategy and improving of the foundation by the core team, after which the
>> community can benefit from it either as users or participants. Having a less
>> well defined quality standpoint, is in a sense the other way round: despite
>> the good intentions, have the community be confronted with issues, then try
>> to solve them. Some frustration being vented here as well as you might have
>> noted, but I guess that’s all in the game.
> 
> You can vent all you want, there's only one user on this forum that's
> paid by Beagle Foundation/TI.  The rest of use are just volunteer's

That'd be me. I'm paid by TI and they let me do whatever I can for the 
Foundation and community. The Foundation has an executive director and that is 
the only paid employee. She doesn't monitor the forums, but I can escalate 
issues to her or people at TI. I try to spend my time the way the community 
would want, but I think I'm a little typical in that documentation is like 
pulling teeth. 

> who spend our free time working on it, i usually just ignore venter's
> unless they have a patch..

Thanks very much Robert. 

> 
> Ps, now go test, your bug is fixed:
> 
> https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2017-04-30/
> 
> Release notes will show up tomorrow on my lunch break .. ;)
> 
> Busy now, as I've got burgers to grill. ;)
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> Robert Nelson
> https://rcn-ee.com/
> 
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