-------------------------------------------- On Mon, 5/1/17, Jason Kridner <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Sharing some thoughts on quality To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 1, 2017, 3:09 PM > On Apr 30, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Robert Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Joseph Heller > <[email protected]> wrote: >> I just stumbled upon an issue I had encountered a year ago as well, and >> would like to share some thoughts on this here. All help appreciated, don't >> get me wrong, and I'm sure it will be resolved but I recalled some things >> missing the first time when I had the issue, which still seem to be missing >> now. It is things missing like: are there release notes, > > >> is there a bug >> tracker, > > github: > > https://github.com/beagleboard/ > >> differentiation between stable and unstable releases, > > no diff, it's a rolling model.. > >> a wiki that's >> kept up-to-date, > > it is, the issue is "3rd party" wiki's.. > >> and what happens if someone crucial is leaving the team? > > He did. that's why we don't ship Angstrom by default.. > > Just to scare you more, i drive an hour every morning and night thru > dark country roads in north minnesota with lots of deer running around > to get to my Day Job. > > Everything i use to build the debian image is on my github account. So > when i smack a 30 point buck or a moose, it should be easy for someone > else to pick up. > >> Now that got me thinking: could it be that this is the underlying reason for >> issues like these in general? The reason for me to bring it up is that I'm >> actually wondering if spending my time and effort on the Beaglebone is the >> best investment, or that there's alternative solutions. The Beaglebone is >> known to be an SBC with a steep learning curve, but I did not expect to be >> spending time on the issues just mentioned. As an experiment, I have an >> outstanding order which I wonder if that suits me better in the long run if >> issues occur. So in that sense, this is feedback on something that looks to >> me as the weak spot of the Beaglebone. I truly think the board is a very >> good platform from hardware point of view, but it would be a pity if due to >> the issues mentioned it will not survive competition. My guess, and maybe >> the hard part, is that suggested improvements are not easily decided upon >> and implemented by the community - although here's my contribution by >> starting a discussion and sharing thoughts about it. It's more like defining >> a strategy and improving of the foundation by the core team, after which the >> community can benefit from it either as users or participants. Having a less >> well defined quality standpoint, is in a sense the other way round: despite >> the good intentions, have the community be confronted with issues, then try >> to solve them. Some frustration being vented here as well as you might have >> noted, but I guess that’s all in the game. > > You can vent all you want, there's only one user on this forum that's > paid by Beagle Foundation/TI. The rest of use are just volunteer's That'd be me. I'm paid by TI and they let me do whatever I can for the Foundation and community. The Foundation has an executive director and that is the only paid employee. She doesn't monitor the forums, but I can escalate issues to her or people at TI. I try to spend my time the way the community would want, but I think I'm a little typical in that documentation is like pulling teeth. > who spend our free time working on it, i usually just ignore venter's > unless they have a patch.. Thanks very much Robert. > > Ps, now go test, your bug is fixed: > > https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2017-04-30/ > > Release notes will show up tomorrow on my lunch break .. ;) > > Busy now, as I've got burgers to grill. ;) > > Regards, > > -- > Robert Nelson > https://rcn-ee.com/ > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/CAOCHtYhmFxCsEfA-WwmEU2znC-fRfgJY_xYpvckKaDxEpS-HtA%40mail.gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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