I'm fairly confident the answer to my question about whether the  8250 
driver implements "partial 485 capability", (allowing Python or a C#/.net 
application to manually control the RTS line for a given UART via the 
driver) is NO.  But the OMAP driver DOES appear to allow this.

When I toggle the serial driver defines in kernel 4.4.y's defconfig file ( 
see below),  re-build the kernel, and deploy to my target (along with the 
device tree which couples a given GPIO on my custom board to UART5)  I'm 
only able to toggle the RTS line from within Python (to enable/disable the 
485 chip's transmit)  when I open the /dev/ttyO4 device in Python, but not 
with the /dev/ttyS4 device.

Additionally, the device tree containing the fragment below appears to be 
successfully coupling gpio5_8 and UART5, so this appears to be a driver 
issue rather than a device tree user error issue.


I built the RCN 4.4.y kernel both ways: 

In paches/defconfig:

(1) {CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_OMAP=n,  CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP=y}
(2) {CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_OMAP=y,  CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP=n} 

*** Also worth noting is I lost my serial console until I enabled, 
CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP_CONSOLE=y ***

Ironically enough, my current build (built using configuration (1) above) 
appears to have BOTH the OMAP and 8250 devices which isn't what I would 
expect.. I've only tried writing to /dev/ttyO4 at this point.  There maybe 
some other defines which need to be changed in the defconfig to switch off 
the 8250, named serial device files in the /dev/ directory.  Film at 11 on 
that one..


******************
Listing of serial devices with kernel 4.4.y built with configuration (1)
******************

debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyO*
crw-rw---- 1 root   dialout 248, 0 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO0
crw------- 1 debian tty     248, 2 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO2
crw-rw---- 1 root   dialout 248, 4 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO4
crw-rw---- 1 root   dialout 248, 7 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO7

debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyS*
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS0
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 65 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS1
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 66 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS2
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 67 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS3
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 68 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS4
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 69 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS5


*****************
Python snippet and brief description of test results
*****************
ser = serial.Serial('/devlttyO4')
ser.ctsrts = False
ser.write(b'I wish the BeagleBone folks would produce a pocket Beagle with 
an am5728')

I see Tx data from my 2 wire 485 chip on the scope.

ser.ctsrts = True
I see nothing from my 2 wire 485 chip on the scope.


***************
Build Configuration
***************
Started from the console build for BB-X15 with debian 8.9 on elinux Robert 
referred me to a few weeks ago.
Followed the instructions on eewiki for rebuilding BB-X15 kernel, but 
checked out branch origin/4.4.y, and built kernel using build_kernel.sh.
 
debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ uname -r
4.4.83-ti-r119
debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ cat /etc/dogtag
BeagleBoard.org Debian Image 2017-10-02
debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ 

Regards and thanks!

Jeff


On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 6:44:22 PM UTC-6, Jeff Andich wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Will the 8250 driver still allow "manual" control of the RTS line for a 
> given UART from an application like Python or C# (where the application 
> toggles the state of the RTS line, rather than driver, after sending a 
> request message in order to toggle the 485 XCVR), or is the OMAP driver (in 
> place of the 8250 driver) needed for this as well?
>
> I've attempted to associate the RTS line for UART5 with GPIO5_8 (which is 
> connected to the DE toggle on a 485 chip) via the device tree (kernel 
> 4.4.y), followed by calling setRTS(True/False) from Python, but that 
> doesn't appear to be switching the 485 XCVR.  However, I can still use 
> sysfs commands to toggle the GPIO5_8 connected to the 485 chip to control 
> the direction of transmission.
>
> In order to help differentiate between an incorrect device tree 
> configuration vs. needing to recompile the kernel with the OMAP  driver 
> instead of the 8250 driver, I'm wondering if you know whether the 8250 
> driver will support what we're trying here. Everything I've read (including 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/nMtRpdWSJu0/EDSXqGpiBAAJ) 
> seems to suggest that the 8250 doesn't yet handle toggling the RTS/CTS 
> lines on its own based on delays between characters, but I haven't seen 
> anything about manual control.
>
>
> Following is a snippet/fragment from my device tree. ***LATE  
> DISCLOSURE*** From UART5_8, you can see that this is for the BB-X15, but I 
> believe the same issue pertains to both the BBB and the BB-X15: 
>
> &uart5 {
>         pinctrl-names = "default";
>         pinctrl-0 = <&uart5_pins>;
>         status = "okay";
>         rts-gpio = <&gpio5 8 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
>         rs485-rts-active-high;
>         rs485-rts-delay = <0 0>;
>         linux,rs485-enabled-at-boot-time;
> };
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 3:04:51 PM UTC-6, Rnd Mpt wrote:
>>
>> We used the rs485 version/branch of the modbus on github. Sorry i meant 
>> to say rts instead of cts.
>>
>> I used my github as notes. Follow readmes and see if it helps. Its been a 
>> while since we did this. Let me know if more help is needed
>>
>> https://github.com/rwdutoit/beaglebone?files=1
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, 16:33 , <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/issues/38
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017. november 10., péntek 20:33:49 UTC+1 időpontban [email protected] 
>>> a következőt írta:
>>>
>>>> Did you ever get this to work 
>>>>
>>>> I am using the Nelson yakbuild kernel 4.9.45 and disabled the 8250 and 
>>>> enabled omap serial in kernel configuration 
>>>>
>>>> using same rs485 dtso overkay I can not get RTS to work 
>>>> and nothing transmits. 
>>>>
>>>> I can not find anything on web to solve this. 
>>>> Do you have a solution procedure? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> dennis 
>>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
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