Hi,

With RS485-modbus-converters the timing of the RTS pin is CRUCIAL. Software
toggling (GPIO toggling) of this pin (in the RS485/libmodbus library
someone added this capability) have shown (on oscilloscope) to not be
repeatable or works 1 in 30 attempts.
I think we used the stock standard
bone-debian-8.7-lxqt-4gb-armhf-2017-03-19-4gb.img and the RS485 branch of
libmodbus library.
And hardware toggling of RTS pin with dedicated RTS pin.

I think if you check the stock standard image name i provided it will
answer your questions: I believe OMAP is not loaded from some version
onwards



On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:39 PM Jeff Andich <[email protected]> wrote:

> A couple of things you may want to investigate before you use the OMAP
> driver vs. the 8250:
>
>
> 1) According to an older Wiki from TI, the OMAP serial driver doesn't use
> DMA in serial transfer, but 8250 does.  Not sure if this is still the case??
>
>
> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Sitara_Linux_UART_-_Switching_to_8250_Driver#Overview
>
>
> 2) For this experiment, we coupled an unrelated GPIO signal (for the RTS
> signal) with a given UART through the device tree and found that Python can
> only toggle the RTS line when connected to an OMAP driver as opposed to
> 8250 driver.  Note: We didn't try picking a pinmux/IOSET which already has
> an RTS/CTS signal defined for a given UART.  The 8250 driver might allow
> that use case to work.... Will let you know what we find out..
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 5:19:25 PM UTC-6, Jeff Andich wrote:
>>
>> I'm fairly confident the answer to my question about whether the  8250
>> driver implements "partial 485 capability", (allowing Python or a C#/.net
>> application to manually control the RTS line for a given UART via the
>> driver) is NO.  But the OMAP driver DOES appear to allow this.
>>
>> When I toggle the serial driver defines in kernel 4.4.y's defconfig file
>> ( see below),  re-build the kernel, and deploy to my target (along with the
>> device tree which couples a given GPIO on my custom board to UART5)  I'm
>> only able to toggle the RTS line from within Python (to enable/disable the
>> 485 chip's transmit)  when I open the /dev/ttyO4 device in Python, but not
>> with the /dev/ttyS4 device.
>>
>> Additionally, the device tree containing the fragment below appears to be
>> successfully coupling gpio5_8 and UART5, so this appears to be a driver
>> issue rather than a device tree user error issue.
>>
>>
>> I built the RCN 4.4.y kernel both ways:
>>
>> In paches/defconfig:
>>
>> (1) {CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_OMAP=n,  CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP=y}
>> (2) {CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_OMAP=y,  CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP=n}
>>
>> *** Also worth noting is I lost my serial console until I enabled,
>> CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP_CONSOLE=y ***
>>
>> Ironically enough, my current build (built using configuration (1) above)
>> appears to have BOTH the OMAP and 8250 devices which isn't what I would
>> expect.. I've only tried writing to /dev/ttyO4 at this point.  There maybe
>> some other defines which need to be changed in the defconfig to switch off
>> the 8250, named serial device files in the /dev/ directory.  Film at 11 on
>> that one..
>>
>>
>> ******************
>> Listing of serial devices with kernel 4.4.y built with configuration (1)
>> ******************
>>
>> debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyO*
>> crw-rw---- 1 root   dialout 248, 0 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO0
>> crw------- 1 debian tty     248, 2 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO2
>> crw-rw---- 1 root   dialout 248, 4 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO4
>> crw-rw---- 1 root   dialout 248, 7 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyO7
>>
>> debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyS*
>> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS0
>> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 65 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS1
>> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 66 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS2
>> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 67 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS3
>> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 68 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS4
>> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 69 Nov 16 19:28 /dev/ttyS5
>>
>>
>> *****************
>> Python snippet and brief description of test results
>> *****************
>> ser = serial.Serial('/devlttyO4')
>> ser.ctsrts = False
>> ser.write(b'I wish the BeagleBone folks would produce a pocket Beagle
>> with an am5728')
>>
>> I see Tx data from my 2 wire 485 chip on the scope.
>>
>> ser.ctsrts = True
>> I see nothing from my 2 wire 485 chip on the scope.
>>
>>
>> ***************
>> Build Configuration
>> ***************
>> Started from the console build for BB-X15 with debian 8.9 on elinux
>> Robert referred me to a few weeks ago.
>> Followed the instructions on eewiki for rebuilding BB-X15 kernel, but
>> checked out branch origin/4.4.y, and built kernel using build_kernel.sh.
>>
>> debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ uname -r
>> 4.4.83-ti-r119
>> debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$ cat /etc/dogtag
>> BeagleBoard.org Debian Image 2017-10-02
>> debian@BeagleBoard-X15:~$
>>
>> Regards and thanks!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 6:44:22 PM UTC-6, Jeff Andich wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Will the 8250 driver still allow "manual" control of the RTS line for a
>>> given UART from an application like Python or C# (where the application
>>> toggles the state of the RTS line, rather than driver, after sending a
>>> request message in order to toggle the 485 XCVR), or is the OMAP driver (in
>>> place of the 8250 driver) needed for this as well?
>>>
>>> I've attempted to associate the RTS line for UART5 with GPIO5_8 (which
>>> is connected to the DE toggle on a 485 chip) via the device tree (kernel
>>> 4.4.y), followed by calling setRTS(True/False) from Python, but that
>>> doesn't appear to be switching the 485 XCVR.  However, I can still use
>>> sysfs commands to toggle the GPIO5_8 connected to the 485 chip to control
>>> the direction of transmission.
>>>
>>> In order to help differentiate between an incorrect device tree
>>> configuration vs. needing to recompile the kernel with the OMAP  driver
>>> instead of the 8250 driver, I'm wondering if you know whether the 8250
>>> driver will support what we're trying here. Everything I've read (including
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/nMtRpdWSJu0/EDSXqGpiBAAJ)
>>> seems to suggest that the 8250 doesn't yet handle toggling the RTS/CTS
>>> lines on its own based on delays between characters, but I haven't seen
>>> anything about manual control.
>>>
>>>
>>> Following is a snippet/fragment from my device tree. ***LATE
>>> DISCLOSURE*** From UART5_8, you can see that this is for the BB-X15, but I
>>> believe the same issue pertains to both the BBB and the BB-X15:
>>>
>>> &uart5 {
>>>         pinctrl-names = "default";
>>>         pinctrl-0 = <&uart5_pins>;
>>>         status = "okay";
>>>         rts-gpio = <&gpio5 8 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
>>>         rs485-rts-active-high;
>>>         rs485-rts-delay = <0 0>;
>>>         linux,rs485-enabled-at-boot-time;
>>> };
>>>
>>> Thanks!!!
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 3:04:51 PM UTC-6, Rnd Mpt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We used the rs485 version/branch of the modbus on github. Sorry i meant
>>>> to say rts instead of cts.
>>>>
>>>> I used my github as notes. Follow readmes and see if it helps. Its been
>>>> a while since we did this. Let me know if more help is needed
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/rwdutoit/beaglebone?files=1
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, 16:33 , <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/issues/38
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017. november 10., péntek 20:33:49 UTC+1 időpontban
>>>>> [email protected] a következőt írta:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you ever get this to work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using the Nelson yakbuild kernel 4.9.45 and disabled the 8250
>>>>>> and enabled omap serial in kernel configuration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> using same rs485 dtso overkay I can not get RTS to work
>>>>>> and nothing transmits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can not find anything on web to solve this.
>>>>>> Do you have a solution procedure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>> [email protected]
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