Works fine.  As long as power/Vusb is on Vi  (P1-pin 7)
--- Graham

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Patrick Poirier <
patrickpoirie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, I am planning to use this setup, Have you successfully implemented
> and completed tests ?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Le vendredi 17 novembre 2017 13:11:59 UTC-5, wi...@geomonkey.com a écrit :
>
>> Graham --
>>
>> Thanks for the advice! That totally makes sense. I now intend to try this
>> configuration to get the added USB1 working in host mode (e.g., to control
>> a Sony camera using the gphoto2 library):
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lu0aOUP8tbc/Wg8Z3vezBxI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/ud2QXK4zW9gwIhrqVif5ChtTqCcqjDicQCLcBGAs/s1600/PocketBeagle_microUSB_3.png>
>>
>> These USB power switch ICs (e.g., Diodes Incorporated AP2822AKATR-G1, 
>> Richtek RT9711CGB,
>> Richtek RT9742JNGV) limit current, prevent reverse current, etc., and
>> cost less than a dollar. I'll report back about whether this ends up
>> working okay.
>>
>> -- Will
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 5:10:48 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> Your first connection does not work, because you are trying to power the
>>> USB1 from the USB_VIN, but since the is no power going into USB_VIN on
>>> USB-0, there is no power to come out USB-1.
>>> This only works when the board is powered from USB-0
>>> The schematic does not tell you, but USB_VIN, USB0_VIN and USB1_VIN are
>>> all connected together.
>>>
>>> VIN is a totally separate power supply input
>>>
>>> Since you are powering the board from VIN (P1-01) you need to hook the
>>> 5V line on your Micro-USB board to P1-01 and P1-05.
>>>
>>> In this case, it will work, although you have no current limit
>>> protection from a short on the 5V line in a downstream USB device, which is
>>> required by the USB spec.
>>> So, only plug in USB devices and cables you trust.
>>>
>>> I would not power the USB-5V-VBUS from the SYS-VOUT, because SYS-VOUT is
>>> limited to 0.2 A or so, and many USB devices draw more current than this
>>> (USB-2 devices are allowed to draw up to 0.9 A)
>>>
>>> --- Graham
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 5:11:52 PM UTC-6, wi...@geomonkey.com
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I, too, am wondering about the best way to provide power to the board
>>>> and to a device connected to USB1 as host. Here is how I learned to hook up
>>>> a micro-b breakout to USB1 and also how I intend to provide power to the
>>>> board. The problem is that there is no measured voltage at USB1:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XyHjxbobnnY/Wg3xGzyvNcI/AAAAAAAAATo/u1ufBwtum9c4KA6T6zjnu38x4cwwQ3TNQCLcBGAs/s1600/PocketBeagle_microUSB_1.png>
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if I could just power the USB1 device from P1_24 SYS
>>>> VOUT (which does have power when board is supplied by P1_01 SYS VIN) like
>>>> this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l4RYr7WmaGU/Wg3xqYECajI/AAAAAAAAATw/ipK3CZmhG18cieC-bnMLV04PfPBl_hRRACLcBGAs/s1600/PocketBeagle_microUSB_2.png>
>>>> Would it be harmful to do it this way? Are there better ways to
>>>> accomplish this? Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -- Will Bain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 6:59:39 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Further research, looking at the Eagle board and schematic files for
>>>>> the PB, it appears that USB0.VIN and USB1.VIN are both directly connected
>>>>> to VIN.USB
>>>>> Which explains why I had no power on my USB1 host port when connected
>>>>> like the Fritzing diagram, since I am powering from VIN currently.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the question becomes,,,
>>>>> What is the best way to power USB1 VBUS as a host if I don't know in
>>>>> advance whether the customer application will run from VIN or VIN.USB?
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Graham
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 6:58:06 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that there is a PocketBeagle pin P1-7 named USB1-VIN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't find any connection on the PB schematic, other than to P1-7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was connected externally in all of the USB1 host discussions and
>>>>>> Fritzing diagrams.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The name would imply that it is a way to deliver power to the board
>>>>>> when USB1 has an external 5 Volt power source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the basic question is whether this needs to be used/connected
>>>>>> when USB1 is functioning as a host.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>
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