OK its working, decided to play safe, so everything is on jumpers ;-)

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Le dimanche 10 décembre 2017 17:37:50 UTC-5, William Bain a écrit :
>
> I have had it running almost like this (but with just a wire in place of 
> the USB power switch module) for a few hours each day for the last couple 
> weeks or so, and haven't let the magic blue smoke out of my device yet! I 
> plugged a wi-fi dongle into the added USB jack, and the dongle gets pretty 
> hot to the touch, but it works fine and the heat doesn't seem to cause any 
> problems. Haven't tried controlling a camera with it yet.
>
> -- Will
>
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Graham Haddock <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Works fine.  As long as power/Vusb is on Vi  (P1-pin 7)
>> --- Graham
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Patrick Poirier <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I am planning to use this setup, Have you successfully 
>>> implemented and completed tests ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Le vendredi 17 novembre 2017 13:11:59 UTC-5, [email protected] a 
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Graham --
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the advice! That totally makes sense. I now intend to try 
>>>> this configuration to get the added USB1 working in host mode (e.g., to 
>>>> control a Sony camera using the gphoto2 library):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lu0aOUP8tbc/Wg8Z3vezBxI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/ud2QXK4zW9gwIhrqVif5ChtTqCcqjDicQCLcBGAs/s1600/PocketBeagle_microUSB_3.png>
>>>>
>>>> These USB power switch ICs (e.g., Diodes Incorporated AP2822AKATR-G1, 
>>>> Richtek RT9711CGB, 
>>>> Richtek RT9742JNGV) limit current, prevent reverse current, etc., and 
>>>> cost less than a dollar. I'll report back about whether this ends up 
>>>> working okay.
>>>>
>>>> -- Will
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 5:10:48 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Your first connection does not work, because you are trying to power 
>>>>> the USB1 from the USB_VIN, but since the is no power going into USB_VIN 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> USB-0, there is no power to come out USB-1.
>>>>> This only works when the board is powered from USB-0
>>>>> The schematic does not tell you, but USB_VIN, USB0_VIN and USB1_VIN 
>>>>> are all connected together.
>>>>>
>>>>> VIN is a totally separate power supply input
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you are powering the board from VIN (P1-01) you need to hook the 
>>>>> 5V line on your Micro-USB board to P1-01 and P1-05.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, it will work, although you have no current limit 
>>>>> protection from a short on the 5V line in a downstream USB device, which 
>>>>> is 
>>>>> required by the USB spec.
>>>>> So, only plug in USB devices and cables you trust.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not power the USB-5V-VBUS from the SYS-VOUT, because SYS-VOUT 
>>>>> is limited to 0.2 A or so, and many USB devices draw more current than 
>>>>> this 
>>>>> (USB-2 devices are allowed to draw up to 0.9 A)
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Graham
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 5:11:52 PM UTC-6, 
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I, too, am wondering about the best way to provide power to the board 
>>>>>> and to a device connected to USB1 as host. Here is how I learned to hook 
>>>>>> up 
>>>>>> a micro-b breakout to USB1 and also how I intend to provide power to the 
>>>>>> board. The problem is that there is no measured voltage at USB1:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XyHjxbobnnY/Wg3xGzyvNcI/AAAAAAAAATo/u1ufBwtum9c4KA6T6zjnu38x4cwwQ3TNQCLcBGAs/s1600/PocketBeagle_microUSB_1.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering if I could just power the USB1 device from P1_24 SYS 
>>>>>> VOUT (which does have power when board is supplied by P1_01 SYS VIN) 
>>>>>> like 
>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l4RYr7WmaGU/Wg3xqYECajI/AAAAAAAAATw/ipK3CZmhG18cieC-bnMLV04PfPBl_hRRACLcBGAs/s1600/PocketBeagle_microUSB_2.png>
>>>>>> Would it be harmful to do it this way? Are there better ways to 
>>>>>> accomplish this? Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Will Bain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 6:59:39 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further research, looking at the Eagle board and schematic files for 
>>>>>>> the PB, it appears that USB0.VIN and USB1.VIN are both directly 
>>>>>>> connected 
>>>>>>> to VIN.USB
>>>>>>> Which explains why I had no power on my USB1 host port when 
>>>>>>> connected like the Fritzing diagram, since I am powering from VIN 
>>>>>>> currently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the question becomes,,,
>>>>>>> What is the best way to power USB1 VBUS as a host if I don't know in 
>>>>>>> advance whether the customer application will run from VIN or VIN.USB?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- Graham
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 6:58:06 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I note that there is a PocketBeagle pin P1-7 named USB1-VIN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't find any connection on the PB schematic, other than to P1-7.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was connected externally in all of the USB1 host discussions and 
>>>>>>>> Fritzing diagrams.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The name would imply that it is a way to deliver power to the board 
>>>>>>>> when USB1 has an external 5 Volt power source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess the basic question is whether this needs to be 
>>>>>>>> used/connected when USB1 is functioning as a host.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Graham
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>
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