Dennis - Thank you very much for the suggestions and information. Maybe I 
will try dd to copy some of the eMMC. But it appears to be beyond my 
limited understanding, and low chance of success. 
Blair

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 05:14:11 -0700 (PDT), 
> [email protected] <javascript:> declaimed the 
> following: 
>
> >Dennis, thanks for explaining how mount won't work. No 2nd BBB. 
> >Can I do cat of eMMC to read the contents of some of the files? The 
> >important files I need are c/cpp source text files. From the mSD, how do 
> I 
> >specify the eMMC directory? 
>
>         With no partition table, there is no way to tell it where the 
> "directory" is located. It needs to know where the start of the partition 
> was to then locate the data structures telling it where the files are. 
> Note 
> that in Linux, the "directory" is just another file 
>
> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html 
> (Lots of stuff on that page, but I'm going to quote from the end...) 
> """ 
> 3.1.3.2. The file system in reality 
>
>         <SNIP> 
>
> Every partition has its own file system. By imagining all those file 
> systems together, we can form an idea of the tree-structure of the entire 
> system, but it is not as simple as that. In a file system, a file is 
> represented by an inode, a kind of serial number containing information 
> about the actual data that makes up the file: to whom this file belongs, 
> and where is it located on the hard disk. 
>
> Every partition has its own set of inodes; throughout a system with 
> multiple partitions, files with the same inode number can exist. 
>
> Each inode describes a data structure on the hard disk, storing the 
> properties of a file, including the physical location of the file data. 
>          
>
>         <SNIP> 
>
> The only information not included in an inode, is the file name and 
> directory. These are stored in the special directory files. By comparing 
> file names and inode numbers, the system can make up a tree-structure that 
> the user understands. Users can display inode numbers using the -i option 
> to ls. The inodes have their own separate space on the disk. 
> """ 
>
>         Information for one of my BBB (but I have no idea if it varies any 
> from 
> reflash to reflash -- or based upon who provided the eMMC, mine is old 
> enough to have Micron chips for eMMC and SDRAM) -- use fixed width font 
>
> debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo fdisk -l 
> [sudo] password for debian: 
> Disk /dev/mmcblk1: 3.7 GiB, 3925868544 bytes, 7667712 sectors 
> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes 
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 
> Disklabel type: dos 
> Disk identifier: 0xc57622dd 
>
> Device         Boot Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type 
> /dev/mmcblk1p1 *     8192 7667711 7659520  3.7G 83 Linux 
>
>
>
>
> Disk /dev/mmcblk1boot1: 1 MiB, 1048576 bytes, 2048 sectors 
> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes 
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 
>
>
> Disk /dev/mmcblk1boot0: 1 MiB, 1048576 bytes, 2048 sectors 
> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes 
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes 
> debian@beaglebone:~$ 
>
> debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo parted -l 
> Error: /dev/mmcblk1boot0: unrecognised disk label 
> Model: Generic SD/MMC Storage Card (sd/mmc) 
> Disk /dev/mmcblk1boot0: 1049kB 
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B 
> Partition Table: unknown 
> Disk Flags: 
>
> Model: MMC MMC04G (sd/mmc) 
> Disk /dev/mmcblk1: 3926MB 
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B 
> Partition Table: msdos 
> Disk Flags: 
>
> Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags 
>  1      4194kB  3926MB  3922MB  primary  ext4         boot 
>
>
> Error: /dev/mmcblk1rpmb: unrecognised disk label 
> Warning: Error fsyncing/closing /dev/mmcblk1rpmb: Input/output error 
> Retry/Ignore? i 
> Model: Generic SD/MMC Storage Card (sd/mmc) 
> Disk /dev/mmcblk1rpmb: 131kB 
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B 
> Partition Table: unknown 
> Disk Flags: 
>
> Error: /dev/mmcblk1boot1: unrecognised disk label 
> Model: Generic SD/MMC Storage Card (sd/mmc) 
> Disk /dev/mmcblk1boot1: 1049kB 
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B 
> Partition Table: unknown 
> Disk Flags: 
>
> debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo lsblk 
> NAME         MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT 
> mmcblk1      179:0    0  3.7G  0 disk 
> +-mmcblk1p1  179:1    0  3.7G  0 part / 
> mmcblk1boot0 179:8    0    1M  1 disk 
> mmcblk1boot1 179:16   0    1M  1 disk 
> mmcblk1rpmb  179:24   0  128K  0 disk 
> debian@beaglebone:~$ 
>
> debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo blkid 
> /dev/mmcblk1p1: LABEL="rootfs" UUID="0983c07a-71fe-435f-b97f-f7a36e2fc3d3" 
> TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="c57622dd-01" 
> /dev/mmcblk1: PTUUID="c57622dd" PTTYPE="dos" 
> debian@beaglebone:~$ 
>
> >Or somehow copy a block of the eMMC. Then search it to extract the text 
> >content. 
>
>         You /might/ be able to use "dd" to copy the raw eMMC contents to a 
> file 
> on some other media, but then you will have learn how to navigate the 
> structure of the partition (presuming you can find it in that raw data). 
> Note that there is no guarantee that file contents will be contiguous -- 
> even if the editor writes the entire contents as a new file and renames it 
> after deleting the original, the blocks will be allocated from a free list 
> of blocks, and those may be scattered. 
>
>
>
>         The main take-away from above is that -- for my eMMC, the primary 
> partition starts at sector 8192 (or 4MB in) -- so if you zeroed 100MB, 
> you've also wiped out the first 96 MB of the data. If the "inodes" are 
> stored there, then the pointers to the files themselves have been lost. 
>
> http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Inodes.html 
>
>
>
> -- 
>         Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN 
>         [email protected] <javascript:>    
> http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/ 
>
>

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