On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 5:45 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:07 PM Jason Chu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I counted 15 in my spam folder, inbox, and trash in that same time period. >> >> https://groups.google.com/g/beancount/c/L2kishqjKbA >> https://groups.google.com/g/beancount/c/x1Abp2dor84 >> https://groups.google.com/g/beancount/c/DlGNSf0WE9I >> >> Are still in the archive. >> > > Those are borderline spam; it looks to me like an advertisement for > accounting-related things. I deleted 3/4 of those and kept one. > > As for the others, I deleted a bunch sometime last year. > > > >> >> I think the deal is that some people don't like seeing spam from a >> mailing list that has otherwise high quality posts. My Gmail misclassified >> legitimate emails from this list as spam and I don't want to mark any of >> the actual spam I receive from it in case that starts marking other >> legitimate posts as spam for other people. >> > > Look I'm with you I just don't think it's that terrible we get ~10 spammy > messages on the list / year and that I lag a few months in deleting them > from the archive. > I think it's less about impact on any individual and instead about sharing the impact with everyone who receives emails from the list. Each of them also has to make a choice about what to do with those emails. That's why we're suggesting a moderation for non-subscribers (with blanket approval after the initial email) so only moderators have to worry about cleaning up emails, not having them in the archives at all, and not bothering everyone else with them. My days of being able to submit patches for things are pretty limited, but my ability to check a moderation queue for (very occasional) spam is doable. >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 4:39 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't know what all the fuss is about, I see 3 or 4 spam messages >>> since October. >>> They're gone. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 6:00 PM Hawrylyshen, Alan <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think Simon's suggestion is a good idea - we don't miss anything >>>> except for some possible delay and most of us will not get spam. Jason's >>>> point around optimising for no threat is a good one too. >>>> >>>> I'm in favour of setting non-members to moderated with a few folks >>>> willing to check the queue regularly - I'm on that list (I'd volunteer to >>>> check) but I don't have the established credentials that someone like Red >>>> or Martin (or most of you) have. >>>> >>>> A >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 21:58, Jason Chu <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am curious how many non-subscribers we have sending email to the ML. >>>>> Are we trying to optimize for a situation that doesn't actually exist, >>>>> thus >>>>> causing a worse experience for all subscribers? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:16 PM Simon Michael <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2/23/22 4:49 AM, Alan H wrote: >>>>>> > I'm also ok with the >>>>>> > list only being open to subscribers (for posting) I'm not sure that >>>>>> > would reduce the participation significantly and it would likely >>>>>> dent >>>>>> > the spam. >>>>>> > Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> You don't have to reject non-subscribers' messages entirely; you can >>>>>> have them be moderated. 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