On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 12:45 PM George <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I work at a company that pays me in part with RSUs. The vesting process is
> "sell for tax", and looks a little like this:
>
>
>    1. N shares are vested in the current vesting period.
>    2. To pay taxes on my behalf, the company takes N shares, multiplies
>    it by the fair market value (FMV) to get my taxable income T.
>    3. The company then calculates my tax liability based on T.
>    4. Based on my tax liability, the company sells S shares at price P.
>    Note, FMV != P. I am left with N - S = R shares, my remainder. Sometimes a
>    little cash is left over and that is left in my brokerage account as cash.
>
> I'm surprised FMV != P. The brokers should have handled all of that
atomically.
In any case, I assume you have the cash amounts and numbers of shares for
both the vesting at FMV, and P sold for covering taxes?



>
>    1. The R remaining shares are deposited into my account.
>
> While this approach is similar to the vesting example in the beancount
> docs <https://beancount.github.io/docs/stock_vesting_in_beancount.html>,
> there are some questions that make it not directly applicable.
>
>
>    1. My company does not tell me what the basis price for R is in my
>    account. The example in the documentation has 131.3700 as the price of
>    the stock
>    
> <https://beancount.github.io/docs/stock_vesting_in_beancount.html#conversion-to-actual-stock>
>    when it is converted from RSURefund dollars into HOOLI stock. Unfortunately
>    this number is not available in any documentation (statements, CSV exports,
>    website) that my broker Schwab provides me. Additionally, my
>    HR/compensation people at my employer have not been helpful in answering
>    this question.
>
> I believe your basis should be FMV at the time of vesting. That's also
your income.
If P != FMV, you'll have to report a gain/loss of (P-FMV) - this sounds
annoying.


>
>    1. I get a pay stub for the tax paid on my RSUs. The problem is that
>    the income from the RSUs is not the actual sale price, it's the FMV. Since
>    FMV != sale price, there is another opportunity for my double entry
>    accounting to not add up.
>
> That sounds correct. The FMV is your income, and sets the cost basis of
those shares.

I'd like to hear more about FMV != P...




> In general I'm hoping that others can share how they handle ambiguous
> situations like this. I have searched far and wide and found nothing.
>




Thank you.
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