By the way, I have a bit more of a possible legal/logistics question
related to this...

Should I do the impossible and get a nice fully 'remixed for retro game
tinkering' Etoys-based image created, would I be able to distribute that in
any way and if so, what kind of restrictions would come with it?  I'm not
exactly looking to make a pay product or anything of that sort, but I would
like to share my edits with folks and encourage them to use it and
potentially that would involve distributing an ISO setup with everything
ready to 'just run' on a pi400.

That's the ideal, anyway.  What kind of distribution considerations need to
be addressed?  I'm just asking preliminarily now so I can at least get an
idea of what I don't know.

On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 7:45 PM Jeremy Landry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey all ,I wanted to follow up on this thread to let everyone know I
> figured out the solution to my issues, but I suppose the exact issue should
> be described before I describe the solution.
>
> PROBLEM:  I want to run a proper Etoys on a Pi400. I don't necessarily
> need it to load projects, I just need it to be able to make projects and
> load THOSE projects.
>
> ISSUES I HAD: Finding a modern Etoys that runs properly AND doesn't have
> the issues of older VMs.  Squeak 6 has broken Etoys functionality in
> fundamental ways that makes it unusable for serious projects (no playfield
> viewer is the deal breaker...the weird 'heading' errors can be ignored with
> new scripts).
>
> SOLUTION: Squeak 5.3 runs Etoys flawlessly on Pi400.
>
> I do hope Squeak can unbreak Etoys as honestly having any speed gains from
> drawing optimization in newer Squeaks would be great, but I'm happy as a
> clam right now.  The next step is to start twisting linux into making the
> environment I want Squeak to be in...(read: time to annoy a completely
> different group of people on a completely different mailing list!)
>
> Thanks folks for listening and I hope anyone who wants to use proper Etoys
> on a Pi400 can find this message.
>
> Once again, TLDR:  If you want Etoys running perfectly on a pi400, get
> Squeak 5.3.  It's the literal only version that works properly I've
> personally found.
>
>
>
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