>>>>> "OR" == Octavian Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> writes:
OR> From: "Uri Guttman" <u...@stemsystems.com>>>>>>> "OR" == Octavian
OR> Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> writes:
OR> Disadvantages:
OR> - Python is prefered by software companies, because it enforce a
OR> single style of programming, not the "there is more than one
>> way to do
OR> it" style.
>>
>> preferred? plenty of companies prefer perl.
OR> Not in my country, so this is not generally true.
so that doesn't make it a blanket statement.
OR> Perl compiles to bytecode but it doesn't save the compiled file,
OR> so in non-persistent programs like FastCGI or mod_perl the
OR> programs must be compiled again and again. Python saves the
OR> compiled bytecode of its modules automaticly and if the next time
OR> the program runs, the compiled bytecode is ran without needing to
OR> compile the code again.
so? that is only startup time and in any daemon/server situation it
doesn't matter. runtime matters then and saved bytecode doesn't affect
that.
OR> Python may not be faster than Perl in all cases, but here are 2 simple
OR> programs that can be compared (I haven't added use strict...):
OR> In Perl:
OR> print fib(35);
OR> sub fib {
OR> my $n = shift;
OR> return $n if $n < 2;
OR> fib($n-1) + fib($n-2);
OR> }
OR> In Python:
OR> def fib(n):
OR> if n < 2: return n
OR> return fib(n-1) + fib(n-2)
OR> print fib(35)
OR> The compilation of this small program doesn't take too much anyway,
OR> but on my computer the Perl code above runs ~ 14 seconds and the
OR> Python code runs ~ 7 seconds which is a big difference.
so? that is a lousy example with a very small sample size. also
recursion is not a good way to benchmark languages.
OR> Yes I know that we can use Memoize to speed it up but this is an
OR> optimization that can be made to the Python code too.
memoize on fibbinacci?? hahah.
OR> - Python is used by Google for their dynamic pages and the creator of
OR> Python is employed by Google and this is a good promotion.
>>
>> so what? amazon uses perl a ton. that is very specious and useless.
OR> I doubt that most of the software companies that may offer employment
OR> opportunities know that Amazon uses Perl. But it is obviously that
OR> Google uses Python because w can see the .py extension on his web
OR> sites.
huh?? amazon offers employment opportunties and so does imdb (which is
all perl!).
OR> With other words, I think that Perl is better than Python for web
OR> programming and system administration and Python is better for
>> desktop
OR> apps and for newer technologies.
>>
>> again, bogus logic.
OR> Why? I have told you why Python is better for. Do you think that Perl
OR> has only advantages and absolutely no disadvantage?
no. but your arguments have little to back them. this is a useless
thread and i am out.
OR> Perl is better if you live in an area where there are already a large
OR> base of Perl programs that need to be maintained and Python is
OR> prefered by younger programmers because it is much cleaner (and
OR> because the young programmers need a job, and the jobs are offered by
OR> software companies that like the language they use to be as standard
OR> as possible).
>>
>> live?? what does where you live have to do with a language?
OR> It has to do because in my country almost nobody uses Perl. There are
OR> just a few companies that use Perl, but most of them do outsourcing
OR> for other companies from USA, Western Europe and Australia.
OR> And a language which is the best but not required on the labour market
OR> has very small value because the programmers usually need to live with
OR> the money they earn.
move to a better country? get a telecommute job? contract all over the
world?
OR> And there is no bias here because I like much more Perl and I know it
OR> much better and it is better than Python for creating web apps as I
OR> said, but it is not the best for everything.
perl isn't good to replace assembler, drivers and kernels. not much else
it can't do if coded well. too much code in general sucks.
uri
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