On 19/04/2011 16:00, Peter Scott wrote:

I remember when Casey West and Kevin Meltzer started this list.  Casey
was very specific on-line and in person about it being a place where
newcomers could ask questions without being flamed.  The FAQ bears this
out:

: 2.1 - What is the list for?
:
:  A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a friendly
:  atmosphere.

That is also the complete description of this group at http://
lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html.

The FAQ goes on:

: 2.3 - Are there any rules?
:
: Yes. As with most communities, there are rules. Not many, and ones that
: shouldn't need to be mentioned, but they are.
:
:   * Be nice
:   * No flaming
:   * Have fun
:[...]
: * If you think what you are writing may be taken in a way you didn't
: intend, please add a smiley :-) Many flame wars are stopped by a simple
: smiley!
: * No flames. If your fingers are burning as you are typing the email, it
:  would likely be best not to send it.

If anything is clear from that FAQ it is that the intention is to avoid
flames on this list.  Casey and Kevin appear to have stopped monitoring
this group some time ago, though.

I have raised the issue of bullying with the moderators in past years.
The reaction was that, since Randal had such valuable input, it was
appropriate to let it drop. I find Randal's ideas interesting, although
hardly germane or unmissable, but the decision has let through the flood
of bad manners for so long that it is now entrenched in the life of the
list. That is a damned shame, and I think the moderators should earn
their position and make some changes at last.

Rob

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