>>>>> "Rob" == Rob Dixon <rob.di...@gmx.com> writes:
Rob> I have raised the issue of bullying with the moderators in past years. Rob> The reaction was that, since Randal had such valuable input, it was Rob> appropriate to let it drop. I find Randal's ideas interesting, although Rob> hardly germane or unmissable, but the decision has let through the flood Rob> of bad manners for so long that it is now entrenched in the life of the Rob> list. That is a damned shame, and I think the moderators should earn Rob> their position and make some changes at last. Since you mentioned me by name... My biggest problem (I think) is that I'm clearly not my code. If someone complains about my code, no matter how harshly, *I* don't take it as an affront to *me*. I just learn from it, and get better. So, I project that same level of independence on others, and have a really hard time relating that someone would take a criticism of code as a personal attack. I suspect that most *mature* programmers have already sorted this out, even if they are beginners in Perl. And since most people who came to Perl in the early days were already mature programmers, my style got locked in. This list was created in response to the resulting "old culture vs new culture" flame wars that made CLPM and monks "unsafe for new programmers". Not "new to Perl", but "new to programming", and since more people are learning Perl as a first or second language, the scales are tipping. Rob, sadly, you're right. I agree. This list has become more and more like every other list. Maybe this proves that it's inevitable. Not that it makes it right, but just an observation. There's some interesting discussion up and down the thread of http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=205373 where I brought this up with respect to monks. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <mer...@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
