At 03:23 PM 10/02/2001 -0700, Michael Kelly wrote:
>Well, being somewhat of a beginner myself, I think it is very helpful to
>look at stuff that's above your head. I certainly don't mind the fact that
>80% of the stuff on this list is above me, and I think that, when I do start
>dealing with some of the more advanced stuff, I'll have had a little
>introduction to it here ("Oh yeah, I remember so-and-so mentioned that...").
>
>Overall, I think it's beneficial to see stuff that's above your head, no
>matter what level you're at, as long as it's made clear that total beginners
>can can ask simple questions and not be flamed for it.

I definitely agree with you, Michael. It's kind of like any activity, such
as basketball or tennis. If you force yourself to watch and play with
people who are much more advanced than you, you'll naturally end up getting
better by osmosis. Although a lot of the Perl discussion that goes on in
c.l.p.m. goes "over my head", I'll end up digging that discussion out of my
memory banks (and dejanews) the next time I have a Perl problem, simply by
virtue of having seen such a discussion take place.  

Of course that being said, I suppose is it out of the charter of this
mailing list to exercise ones advanced Perl muscle needlessly. I can
understand that it does more harm than good to show a newbie some cool and
efficient--yet obfuscated--method of getting a simple task done, when said
newbie is still in the stages of learning the core language and
methodologies first. I can imagine this is why many people are turned off
by Perl because they see a lot of compact, "read only" code written by
experienced Perl jockeys :)

Just my $.02...Aloha,
mel
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