On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:43:37PM -0800 drieux wrote:
> Learn to be nice to undergrads and grad students.
> Think about the unpleasant lack of experience that
> they have in a wide range of issues. Most of them
> grew up in normal homes with median types of families.
> ALL they have to 'validate their personhood' IS that
> college degree, and their 'connections'. Unlike
> the rest of us who have different sets of 'connections'
> and different sets of Rules that drive our 'risk analysis'.
Pretty big words by someone who happily admits to not have chosen the
academic part. I wonder whether you really know so much about the
contents of academic studies.
> At best they know what they have been taught,
> and rarely have they had the time to test their
> speculations. So if you want to learn Perl, learn it!
> Test out Ideas! See how things can be done! That
> good old fashion all american approach of basing
> one's opinion upon what one has DONE....
And at this point it gets utterly ridiculous. Since this is a list
dealing with Perl, we can try to make this thread a little more on topic
by looking at the people who made and still make Perl. The current set
of perl-porters that are able and willing to work on the core are with
not many exceptions people with academic degrees. There are others as
well, but those are usually not responsible for the tricky bits that do
require more than a little bit of self-teaching: you don't usually
self-teach yourself enough number theory that is necessary for coming up
with a sane hashing-algorithm or random number generator. A self-taught
programmer will most definitely not be able to understand (let alone
create) a regular expression engine. The things to be considered when
crafting a memory allocater are usually beyond the things an autodidact
has picked up. It's stuff that can be found in the old venerable
computer-science text books that are recommended in academic circles.
> IF you learned how to do the process of learning,
> Then WHY get a college degree??? IF your skill
> mix is taking you where you want to be, then
> rock ON! if it is not, figure out where you
> want to be and go there.
I am sorry. This only works for the very simple problems. Those
problems, that are indeed not teached in university, because a graduate
is expected to acquire these things on his own.
Tassilo
--
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval
--
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
