On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 19:08 -0700, Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> I don't see
> 
> ক্‌+ট্+র
> 
> on the list, and I can't think of a Bengali word that would need it,
> but one could spell use it in ইলেক্ট্রিক. Is that a valid use? 

It is valid. But, this kind of use should be progressively abandoned.
'ইলেকট্রিক' was suggested by grammar specialists, or even with 'hasanta'
for the time being, like 'ইলেক্‌‌ট্রিক'। Though there is the 'ি  '
there, which is less problem-some. But if it ended in 'অ', as Runa
Bhattacharya once pointed out, like 'অক্ট্রয়' (octroi) , it looks
primarily more awkward, like 'অকট্রয়'. But it works, you see, gradually
people get used to it. When the English and other alien words started
becoming received into the language, it was still a Sanskrit hegemony.
And hence, many grammar rules were directly imported from Sanskrit. Like
'station', a popular version of the 'বাংলা বর্ণীকরণ'  was 'ষ্টেশন',
which was very correct according to Sanskrit 'ষত্ব-বিধি', till now you
will see it in the signboards of the suburban all-purpose shops in the
form of 'ষ্টেশনারি'.  (The prescribed spelling is 'স্টেশন', or
'স্টেশনারি') 

This queer spelling with 'ষ' was done due to the Sanskrit 'ণত্ব-বিধি' of
'ষ' always getting added up with 'ট'. Or, say, Bangla 'ঘন্টা',  was
spelled as 'ঘণ্টা'. So, later, the highest Bangla grammar specialists,
including Suniti Chatujje, suggested that for all directly Sanskrit
words (বাংলায় যাদের আমরা তত্সম বলি, যারা মূল সংস্কৃতের সঙ্গে একই আছে) we
will use Sanskrit grammar rules, like 'নির্ঘণ্ট' with a 'ণ' but for the
changed and internalized and folk-root words, like 'ঘন্টা', it would be
'ন'. And when we are writing alien words (English, European, Arabic,
Farsi, and so on) we will always avoid:

1. ণ and ষ

2. ঈ, ী, ঊ, ূ

3. ঋ and 'li' (i have forgotten the key in Probhat)

4. As much as conjuncts should be avoided as possible. This will depend
on common-sense. And also 'ৎ' and 'ঃ'  should be totally dispensed
with. 

Sorry for taking so long (maybe you did not exactly want it, or maybe
you knew it from before, but you can't help it with an old talkative
teacher, and i am a third generation teacher almost reaching fifty).


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