On 5/9/07, Runa B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > das wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:43 -0400, Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > > > >> Since, usability is the main issue, I also agree with Deepayan on > >> relocation > >> > >> of 'hasant'. [ \ ] intuitaviely resembles more like actual hasanta > >> than > >> current [ / ]. > >> > >> > > > > This point has occurred to me too, time and again. If [\] does anything, > > that should be 'hasanta'. But there is a problem. While typing, all the > > more used things should always be within the three main rows. Use of > > 'hasanta' is not at all that common in modern Bangla, but the other job > > that is done by [/] now is conjoining, and that is pretty common, almost > > once every word in average, or even more than that. And moving just the > > little finger of the right hand helps in keeping up the speed, that will > > not be true for [\], every time for a conjoined letter right palm will > > get physically moved, when the bases of both the palms are fixed on the > > table, that is the natural position of the palms, and the healthy one > > for typing for long periods of time (ergonomic too). By just stretching > > the right little finger you cannot get [\]. You have to move it. This is > > true for both the keyboards I use, the TVS-Gold (it is a quite reputed > > one) and even the cramped keyboard of the Acer Aspire 3002 laptop. So, I > > think it will be true for any keyboard. This speed thing is so very > > important for the heavy bulk Bangla writers. So, I think, in no way it > > will be prudent at all to give the conjoining function to the [\] key. > > > I absolutely support Dipankarda's views here about the "hasanta". Moving > it to "\" is an inconvenient way of writing conjuncts. > > > Secondly, about DS' query regarding (in)frequent usage of ZWJ: > > Sayam's blog entry regarding the matter is pretty much conclusive > > http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/2007/04/09/ra-japhala-in-bengali-bn-and-unicode-50/ > > Unicode rules prescribe the usage of ZWJ (and not ZWNJ) for writing > ra-japhala. > > <quote-from-blog/book> > " …Unicode Standard adopts the convention of placing the character > U+200D ZWJ immediately after the ra to obtain the ra-yaphaala…" > </quote-from-blog/book>
Yes, my point was (and still is) that this use of ZWJ is very very infrequent compared to the use of ZWNJ. At one point you suggested that we have ZWNJ on a shift key and ZWJ on a non-shift key, and I was trying to understand your reasons for that. > Since ZWNJ is also used by Uniscribe's older versions perhaps the Again, we seem to have a misunderstanding. Your implication seems to be that ZWNJ no longer has any valid use. Is that what you are trying to suggest? > following scheme can be adopted to keep both on non-shift keys: > > [`] ZWJ > [\] ZWNJ I'll be perfectly happy with that. -Deepayan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
